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yucca
ParticipantRe: Bosch WVT1260GB dry clothes getting wet again
Hi
Thanks for replting so quickly.
Well whilst I have not had a look at the condenser yet, I did look at it in December when I replaced the valve magnet – so I doubt that that is at fault. Besides, there is no steam from the soap dispenser.
I’m just running another test, and as a hunch I decided to remove the soap dispenser as the cycle ran. Lo and behold, every now and then when the pump activates some water is deposited in the chamber where the soap dispenser ordinarily resides (far more than would be expected as a result of condensation drips).
When I had the top off the other day, I noticed there appears to be a 3rd black hose which goes to the soap dispenser (the first two I guess are for the soap and fabric conditioner). The other end is connected to the outlet hose, so my hunch is that that black hose has some kind of relief valve such that if the outlet is blocked, any back pressure causes water to be dispensed back into the machine via the soap dispenser as opposed to leaking back out of the washing machine trap and all over the floor.
I suppose in a washing cycle it’s not bvious because the clothes are wet to begin with.
Does this sound plausible? Or have I just invented a new part 🙂
yucca
ParticipantRe: Bosch Exxcel WVT1260GB/01 Steam from soap drawer
Ok – I can get hold of a wet-and-dry vacuum cleaner.
So, I attach a short length of hose pipe to the vacuum cleaner and feed that down the condensor?
Is the condensor just a vacant “bottle” with cold water that runs down the sides? or is it more complicated? i.e. will the hose pipe get stuck?
Thanks
yucca
ParticipantRe: Bosch Exxcel WVT1260GB/01 Steam from soap drawer
Thanks for the reply.
I kind of figured it was going to be difficult from the last time when I tipped the machine up and saw the small connecting hose from the condensor to the drum. I think there was a jubilee clip? Can I remove the whole thing or should I try to clear it in situ?
I did try flushing it out by pouring in some hot water but that hasn’t made much difference.
This seems like poor design to me – surely they could have put in a fluff filter to prevent the condensor from becoming blocked? I’m sure my old zanussi had one of those.
BTW, which way does the fan pump the air? I guess it enters the drum from the top drawing cooler air from the bottom so moist air condenses at the bottom of the condensor?
If that’s the case, then if there is fluff at the top of the condensor (which there was), then presumably that’s because the condensor wasn’t working as well as it should have been? i.e there’s a load of fluff still stuck at the bottom of the condensor?
Am I barking up the wrong tree or does this sound plausible?
yucca
ParticipantRe: Baumatic BT2740ss continuous cooling fan
I have a multimeter which measures voltage, current and resistance. It also has a continuity setting for testing circuits.
I guess that the control thermostat is normally open circuit until the pre-set temperature is reached at which point it becomes close circuit thereby sending power to the cooling fan? So that’s the opposite for a regular heating thermostat?
Can you elaborate how you would test this please?
Thanks
yucca
ParticipantRe: Baumatic BT2740ss continuous cooling fan
Hi you’re absolutely right – thermostats are simple things.
Is there a sure fire way of me confirming that the control stat is at fault?
Thanks
yucca
ParticipantRe: Baumatic BT2740ss continuous cooling fan
Thanks for the quick response.
We tend to find that when the oven is turned off from hot, a whirring noise (I suppose made by a fan) continues unless we switch the oven off at the mains – I reckon it would continue forever. We have left it going for ages before.
When the oven is switched on from cold, this whirring noise is not audible. but then again, it could be masked by the main oven fan circulating the hot air.
I think my wife has complained that the oven does not get hot enough rather than too hot.
So there are two thermostats? The control stat kicks in if the oven gets too hot causing the cooling fan to turn. So, if the control stat stops working properly, it will attempt to cool the oven (presumably even when it’s not hot enough?).
Presumably this is going to waste a fair bit of energy? The main oven element tries to heat the oven up to the correct temperature however the control stat thinks its too hot and turns on the cooling fan which tries its best to cool the oven down! Damn, I knew I should have replaced this ages ago.
Is there a way to test whether control thermostat is functioning properly? Should it have a certain resistance?
When should the control stat fire? Is it a safety device that should only kick in if something has gone awry with the main thermostat causing the temperature to rise beyond safe levels? Or should it kick in when the oven is switched off to speed up the cooling process and when cool enough, switch itself off?
Thanks for your help.
yucca
ParticipantRe: Bosch HydroSensor Dishwasher
Hi again,
Finally got round to investigating this.
I’ve opened the left hand panel and I can see the sensor that detects an overfill is only slightly gunked up.
Whilst my dishawasher is a freestanding unit, having removed the left hand panel, it looks like the 2nd picture in this post http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/modules.p … ic&t=44514
When I operate the machine I can see the water level rise in the left hand chamber which overflows into the chamber with the orange float. Sure enough, the float rises, triggering the switch to pump out water.
I can see the pipe that leads from the sensor snakes through to the front of the machine under the door (I presume its blocked leading to backpressure and a build of up water triggering the pumping action etc) – however, I can’t work out how to remove the kick plate (under the door) to expose this pipe. There are no obvious screws and I don’t want to pull too hard in case it breaks.
I’ve noticed that all along the top edge of the kick plate there are plastic tabs but they don’t appear to ‘give’.
Any ideas? Do I have to turn the machine on its side?
Thanks
yucca
ParticipantRe: Bosch Exxcel WVT1260GB/01 Not Drying
Disaster last night …
Having dinner last night when I casually ask my wife if there have been any problems with the machine – none reported.
Right on queue, the machine starts making a racket. I stop the machine, open the door to find that the wire from a bra has jammed itself into one of the holes in the drum. Also, the machine has been overloaded too.
I pulled out the wire and noticed that there is a puddle of water on the floor. I assumed that this was due to the machine being overloaded. Mopped up, halved the load and tried again. Another puddle appears. Tipping the machine backwards brings on a gush of water onto the floor.
I decide to investigate having turned the electricity off and mopped up as much water as a I can. I notice that water is emanating from near the bottom of the condensor. Put the washing machine onto its side so that the condensor bottle is towards the floor. Having felt around and not found anything obvious, I rotated the machine so that the condensor bottle is upper most.
I now noticed that the rubber gasket that joins the condensor bottle to the drum appears to have a hole in it. After further examination, it turns out not to be a hole – but rather the outer ‘lip’ has been pushed into the body of the drum. My wife’s got smaller hands and was able to pull the rubber out so that it appeared to fit snugly around the drum like the rest of the lip.
How did this get so? Mea culpa I suspect – when I was originally investigating the condensor blockage, on the advice of my father in-law I pushed down a straighted coat hanger into the condensor to fish out any further blockages – I think it must have got snagged and as I pulled it out, it may have pulled the rubber lip in on itself.
Righted the machine, and did another test – no leaks. however during a spin I noticed a knocking noise which after while sounded like somthing snapping off and spinning around in the drum i.e. between the inner and outer skin of the drum. Could this have been caused by the bra-wire hitting something when poking through one of the holes?
I left the machine overnight and noticed a smaller puddle this morning.
The rubber gasket may have been damaged rather than just dislodged by my foolish insertion of a wire. If so, any instructions of removing/replacing this? Could the bra wire also have caused some damage too? what’s the best way of investigating this leak – I don’t want to do it with a full machine of water because it’ll just pour out of the top somewhere when I tip the machine on its side.
Advice gratefully appreciated!
yucca
ParticipantRe: Bosch HydroSensor Dishwasher
Hi
Thanks for your reply – I’ve not investigated yet – though I have found a receipt that states the model number is BOSCH SGS5358 HydroSensor Dishwasher.
I don’t think we have have problems with the water heating up -but then again I don’t recall checking the dishes immediately after a wash to see if they’re still hot.
I followed the thread and it looks like that most of my problems stem from some sort of blockage.
By the sounds of it, i need to remove the left hand panel and the lower foot plate. Not sure how to do this because I can’t see any screws to undo it to reveal all the gubbins inside.
It doesn’t sound like a quick job so I shall investigate over the weekend.
yucca
ParticipantRe: Bosch Exxcel WVT1260GB/01 Not Drying
I ordered the replacement part and fitted it last Friday – works a treat.
The only thing I have to say is that when I removed the fan that circulates the air (to clear any blockages in the condensor), I (foolishly) removed the black rubber gasket/seal that is used to seal the fan into the plastic housing of the condensor.
Now I notice that when the fan is blowing, I’m getting a slight draught coming back into the machine – presumably the gasket is not sealing as well as it should be – it was tricky it align it since it was no longer fixed to the fan and kept getting caught within the plastic housing as I tried to screw the fan back into place.
Does anybody recommend any glue I can use to stick the rubber gasket back onto the fan – something that won’t corrode the rubber?
Thanks
yucca
ParticipantRe: Bosch Exxcel WVT1260GB/01 Not Drying
Excellent – thanks for all your help – incredibly prompt, I must say so.
Is there any mileage trying to source this part from somewhere other than Bosch – or should I just stump up the cash?
Thanks again
yucca
ParticipantRe: Bosch Exxcel WVT1260GB/01 Not Drying
Hi
Thanks for a prompt reply!
I went back to the machine and tried another dry cycle. Initially, the machine did regularly pump out water every 20 seconds or so, but now I noticed it doesn’t any more. I can hear the pump work, but only a tiny tickle if any is deposited in a bucket.
I can see that the cold inlet hose has 3 electric valves (solenoids?) that control the water entering the machine (2 go to the soap dispenser – presumably 1 for the soap and one for the conditioner and 1 going via a small cream box to the condenser). The small cream box has a hole in the top and I’ve looked down this to see if any water is going through – I did see some initially – this would explain the first deposit of water, but after that nothing.
I’ve put a meter (20,000 ohms) across the terminals of the valve/solenoid and I get open circuit. Having done the same to the other 2 valves/solenoids, I get about 3600ohms.So is that my fault? A dodgy valve/solenoid that occasionally did work but over time stopped working so that fluff built up in the condenser.?Even though I have cleaned the condenser (I didn’t dismantle it – it looked too tricky), if the condenser isn’t cold, then the water is never removed from the circulating air hence it has to go somewhere and eventually leaks out of the soap dispenser? Ergo, very hot damp clothes.
Next question – how on earth do I remove the valve/solenoid from the plastic housing?Update: I’ve just been on the Bosch website – looks like I can’t replace the individual valve/solenoid – its all or nothing.
0426 173910 Valve-magnet 32.32 GBP
If someone could just give me an indicator of whether this analysis seems reasonable – so I don’t buy the wrong part!Thanks again
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