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April 5, 2022 at 6:42 pm #100713
chuffy
ParticipantHi Guys.
Called out to this machine that wouldn’t unlock at the end of the programme and the “lock” light remains illuminated.
It’s fitted with a Metalflex ZV-446 and I replaced it with a Rold DK01 but still get the same problem.
Even after isolating from the mains for a long period when the power is restored the “lock” light is still illuminated and the door won’t open.
Very strange……any ideas?
Cheers.April 5, 2022 at 7:29 pm #481864electrofix
Moderatorwell if its not the instant lock then removing the mains has to open the lock
one thing that can stop it opening is if the lock is under tention so the lock cant withdraw
try locking it then pull plug. then after leaving long enough push door handle in and see if it releases
Dave
April 5, 2022 at 8:26 pm #481865chuffy
ParticipantHi Dave,
I’ve tried removing the interlock from the machine and whilst still electrically connected sliding the latch across to simulate the door being closed
Then start a programme and it locks but when switched off on the machine it still doesn’t release and the lock light remains illuminated even after several minutes.
I seem to remember that some Hoover/Candy washing machines suffered a similar issue which was caused by low insulation on the motor which kept the interlock energised.April 5, 2022 at 8:31 pm #481866electrofix
Moderatorbut that would not answer the fact that with the mains off it should release
think the door also stays locked if it thinks there is water in the machine or things are too hot
Dave
just checked spec and showing up as solenoid lock with manual release and that wont release with time as it needs to be unlocked by timer
April 5, 2022 at 8:35 pm #481867electrofix
Moderatorlong shot
check dryer element and wash element for leakage
Dave
April 5, 2022 at 8:54 pm #481868murv
ParticipantAs Dave said it sound like a mechanical fault.
The Rold DK001 won’t work as it’s an instant lock and the software in the module will not be able to control it
For the ‘door closed’ light to function correctly (where fitted) you need ‘C00306612 or C00307442 which are both PTC locks with door closed sensing.
If you fit an older non-sensing PTC lock the door closed light (where fitted) will always stay on as there is no sensing switch present.
Murv…
April 5, 2022 at 9:02 pm #481869electrofix
Moderatoralso just checked lock
all use same lock except 1 which has different numberDave
April 6, 2022 at 12:44 pm #481870murv
ParticipantSounds like the Whirlpool trade site is more accurate than their retail sites.
On the Hpt retail site. (and aswo)
I tried this one WDAL8640PUK 859990785440 807854401963 x locks C00306612(PTC Hybrid), C00285597(Instant/Pulse), C00294848(Insant pulse+sens)
2 x Modules C00306159 and C00296191
4 x SoftwareLikely to be a serial number change but not specified on any retail or 3rd party trade system.
Very easy to get it wrong
Murv…
April 6, 2022 at 1:56 pm #481871chuffy
ParticipantThanks Murv.
Yes very confusing.
Product code 807072366 s/n 603072366
The interlock that is fitted is the Metalflex ZV-46 C00306612. Which according to Connect is not listed for that machine
When I fitted a Rold DK01 (C00285597)or a Bitron DLS2 (C00294848 )there’d would be a loud buzz when the solenoid was energised but they would both still not unlock on completing the programme.April 6, 2022 at 3:30 pm #481872murv
ParticipantThe buzz which faids away quickly is a sure sign of a permanent feed to an ‘instant/pulse lock’. These locks are designed to lock & unlock with a short pulse from the control module.
If the buzz occurs on power up (before pressing the start button) then the module lock circuit is duff.
Otherwise a replacement PTC type lock should sort it.
Murv…
April 6, 2022 at 9:06 pm #481873electrofix
Moderatorcant see your commercial code
Dave
April 7, 2022 at 8:55 am #481874chuffy
Participant80785440196
April 7, 2022 at 10:25 am #481875electrofix
Moderatorwell i get part no C00306612
it changed from serial 50328
Dave
April 7, 2022 at 12:13 pm #481876chuffy
ParticipantYes that’s what is fitted.
A Metalflex ZV-446.April 7, 2022 at 12:20 pm #481877murv
ParticipantWould be useful if wholesale lookups included serial number changes where required.
I guess this level of detail is not provided in their data dumps from the manufacturer
Murv…
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