Neff Integrated Dishwasher Model No. S5946X0GB/05

Mark Johnson wrote:Hi Dave,

The wash pump is, as you suggested might be the case, now obsolete and there is no suitable alternative.
Can you recommend a manufacturer and model that would be a suitable replacement for the built-in slimline model that I have?
I see John Lewis do a Neff S875HKX20G (£568) and a Bosch Serie 2 SPV2HKX39G (£449). Are they more or less the same? If possible I’d like to spend less, but I don’t want something that is useless. Though, I do not require something that is all singing and dancing.
Would Siemens be the way to go?
Thank you for all your help and advice so far.
Cheers,

Mark

had a few of them where the wash pump had not gone but had a failed capacitor stopping it starting

very cheap fix if that’s all it is

you need to check if the pump is free and if yes is it being energized first

Dave

Andyjawa, is it really that clear cut? Yep, pretty much though you might get lucky.

All dishwashers are as poor as each other? .As above so yes pretty well with caveats: Miele are the best built but still go wrong.

In the articles on UK Whitegoods, they say: ‘In short, if you want a dishwasher that will perform well, last a good few years without incident then be prepared to spend over £400 at least for a good one or, over £500 for an integrated one. Not so in my view so I disagree with UK Whitegoods which is just fine. Most stuff as dishwashers in C21st are challenged and so that is my opinion of Bosch, Neff, Siemens Hotpoint, Indesit, the latest Beko and subsidiary brands, AEG, Zanussi. BUT THEY DO NOT ALL GO WRONG – BUT MANY REPEATINGLY DO which lost me money with no recourse. Miele are better BUT should it fail out of warranty you will be taken to the cleaners: 1st hour £150. 2nd hour £100 then a charge for every 6 mins – go and look it up – then plus very expensive parts if compared to the likes of Beko.

True Chinese made Kenwood have a few common problems as the sump /outlet pump fractionally warps = a very slow leak = easily cured by using an Askoll pump seal which is 20{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} thicker.

“Cheap integrated ones almost always come from China
and go wrong… a lot! “.

Where do you think most of these western European supplied parts come from whether freestanding or intergrated? Make a guess. Not a dishwasher but the Siemens free standing washer dryer is wholly made in China as discovered when I bought a new inlet valve for customer at a rip off price. And so that is why I suggested you consider a 200 odd quid Curry`s Essential ( the Chinese ones were more successful than the Vestel offerings – sometimes seen as a CDA brand AS dishwashers and in my view were simpler, easier to work on than Siemens / Bosch which are a total joke as are new Indesit / Hotpoints and most if not all those already listed above ). When I gave up dishwashers for good after 36 years in disgust thus thowing away 35{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of the business – best move I ever made – to concentrate on washing machines and cheaper tumble dryers, many of the C/essentials dishwashers I did previously go to repair only had minor problems – jammed drain pumps was the most common from memory, the trouble was although there are thousands around most either had them under an insurance ( so who really could know how many failed since that info is unobtainable ) or phoned up Currys out of warranty heard the cost of their callout, wet their knickers and so chucked them away and bought a Hotpoint which is like accidently sticking yours fingers in a bon fire but then coming back for more pain to do the exact thing again on purpose, which in-turn leads on to a whole different argument.

If your argument is also about after sales buy a Bosch or a Neff or Siemens they have the best spares sites in the trade whereas with a Currys own brand you are totally at their whims of mercy

Just because something is made in China does not make it good OR, you can say, just because it is made in China does not make it bad BUT parts do have a habit of disappearing and going obsolete at a drop of a hat or a very long wait ( same with Lg and Samsung stuff.) Its a big place as you know with 100`s of appliance companies or a least brands of which not all end up in Blighty, so that is 100s more than last man standing English made Ebac ( who do not make dishwashers – no that daft! ) since the Brits over the last 50 years have screwed the whole thing up…….as expected……as China no doubt will and that will be expected too one day, perhaps tomorrow?

This is why I was looking at the two Bosch and Neff models – is one better than the other?

Basically the same machines with the same grade of parts with the same degrees of potential grief but with different styling to appeal to innate snobbery but on the plus side both have a great after sales spare part set-up.

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