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  • #14717
    ciavdivs
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    Hello,

    We are moving from a gas area to a non-gas area, and must pick a hob.
    I have used ceramic in the past and hate them as there is little control over heat: ‘it’s impossible to turn down the heat quickly’ is my main bugbear.
    We ‘ve been told to go for halogen or magnetic (magnetic supposedly best) but beyond that there appears to be very little information available.
    If the magnetic hob comes close to the performance of gas, I’d be very tempted.

    How much more quick (than ceramic) are the halogen and magnetic hobs respectively in:
    a. warming up?
    b. responsiveness?

    magnetic hobs are much more expensive – is the difference between that and a halogen/ceramic that much better, or does this price simply reflect different technology?

    Anyone have any idea on the reliablility of:
    a. halogen?
    b. magnetic?

    And lastly, one of the brands of magnetic I saw was a De Dietrich. I’ve searched on this site for any posts relating to this brand and come up with zero! Is it any good? Is it reliable? has anyone *heard* of it?

    Lots of questions; many thanks for replies on any of them πŸ˜‰

    claudia

    #160560
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: ceramic, halogen or magnetic hob?

    De Dietrich – avoid. It’s the expensive brand owned by Brandt/Fagor and the spares are ludicrous prices, technical backup even for the trade is practically zero. Needless to say we don’t like them much. πŸ˜‰

    I really wantto test an induction hob (that’s the magnetic ones) as they are supposed to be excellent, far better than halogen or ceramic, but I haven’t used one to cook with so I can’t comment as yet.

    What I can tell you is that they mostly all need to have air around them, too much heat near the electronics doesn’t seem to do them any favours at all so an oven under it needs lots of clearance and ventilation. But even better, no oven underneath.

    Also watch as Whirlpool (amongst others) supply the electronics complete internally if it ever fails which costs an absolute fortune, sometimes more than a replacement appliance. So much for environmentally friendly.

    Also to cook with induction you made need pans with special bases.

    K.

    #160561
    Martin
    Participant

    Re: ceramic, halogen or magnetic hob?

    ciavdivs wrote:And lastly, one of the brands of magnetic I saw was a De Dietrich.

    You really shouldn’t go with that brand Claudia.

    I guess when you talk of “magnetic” you refer to ‘Induction Hobs’? They are great, energy efficient and safe to use, but costly to buy and reliability is questionable. Plus you will need to buy a whole new set of cooking utensils to use on that type of system πŸ™

    Stick with conventional ceramic or plumb in a propane gas supply and get a proper hob πŸ’‘

    #160562
    ANDYVIVO
    Participant

    Re: ceramic, halogen or magnetic hob?

    Induction is far better than any other cooking surface, lower temperature on the glass, so a lot safer. And very fast at heating up.
    The Zanussi ZKT651D, has seperate electronics for each zone, so this could make it a more reasonable repair if needed.
    To check if your pans are suitable for induction, place a fridge magnet on the outside base of the cookware, if it sticks all well & good, if not, new pans for an induction.

    #160563
    woz
    Participant

    Re: ceramic, halogen or magnetic hob?

    I have an induction hob (magnetic) and i have to say its the best hob i’ve ever used.

    I put mine to the test when i first got it, i put 1 litre of water into our new 3kw kettle and the same on the hob. The water boiled in half the time of the kettle.

    Also when i used to do training on these one of my tricks is to ask for a sterling note, screw it up, then place it under the pan. The look of the notes owner face is priceless when he sees the water boiling for a few minutes then reveal the note to be newly ironed.

    The control-ablity of these hobs are also better than gas and any other cooking surface.

    The technology it’s self is not that new i saw my first one in 1991 imported from france, (needless to say it was the size of a built under oven). This type of hob is the French’s prefferred choice.

    Yes the new pans aren’t cheap but they are usually excellent quality and they do not go black as with gas hobs or turn a manky gold colour as with electric hobs.

    Frankly they are great and i will never go back to gas hobs again

    Regards

    Woz

    #160564
    ciavdivs
    Participant

    Re: ceramic, halogen or magnetic hob?

    Dear all: thanks for all these replies, fantastic πŸ™‚

    I don’t know *why* I keep saying ‘magnetic’ – it’s got stuck in my head; possibly something to do with the pan issue – but yes, induction is what I was talking about.

    The De Dietrich was at a much reduced price, so I was hoping they were one of those brands well-known on the continent but little known here. In my (lay person’s) experience the German-sounding names tend to be very reliable (eg Bosch, Siemens, AEG, Miele), so the replies on that point are very useful.

    I’m certainly not doing ceramic -spit- but will have further think about induction now that I’ve been told performance is as good as gas, and another good long look at prices. The pans I already have are suitable for use on induction, luckily.

    Unfortunately the new kitchen is fairly small and the oven will have to go under the hob.

    any further comments/tips welcomed.

    bw
    claudia

    #160565
    woz
    Participant

    Re: ceramic, halogen or magnetic hob?

    Hi Claudia

    My induction hob is De Dietric and it been faultless up to now (about 1 year old). Now i’m touching wood πŸ˜†

    If your putting an oven under one just make sure the fitter makes as much ventilation as is humanly possible to keep the electronics cool.

    To be honest, also make sure the oven has a cooling fan also.

    good luck

    Woz

    #160566
    ciavdivs
    Participant

    Re: ceramic, halogen or magnetic hob?

    Thanks Woz, and good luck with the De Dietrich πŸ˜‰
    I’ve now been put off buying that one

    Anyone here have knowledge of reliability/performance of Siemens or Baumatic? Do they have individual ‘elements’ like the Zanussi, or ‘whole unit’ like the Whirlpool, as mentioned earlier (those were helpful points; hadn’t thought of that aspect).
    A lot of shops seem to be offering free sets of pans with the induction hobs πŸ™‚

    I’ve read the ‘What’s in a name’ file now – looks like every manufacturer group has at least one German-sounding brand πŸ˜‰
    Baumatic isn’t on the list – is it same as Bauknecht perhaps?

    bw
    claudia

    #160567
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Baumatic is really just a brand name, it’s all stuff bought in from elsewhere and badged. πŸ˜‰

    K.

    #160568
    janew
    Participant

    Re: ceramic, halogen or magnetic hob?

    Hi – I’ve just had a Siemens induction hob – it is absolutely brilliant. Would never have gas again. Much quicker than gas and just as controllable. The siemens has a timer that you can set on the individual cooking zones and turns itself off when the time is up! this is a great feature – for instance when boiling eggs, or setting a time to cook vegetables so they don’t overcook.

    Another great plus is that the induction hob is dead easy to clean as it doesn’t get hot and so nothing burns on it. All I use are Ecloths and water – I’ve never had to spray any chemicals on it yet and it comes up like new. My mum has a halogen hob and she says it’s quite difficult to keep it clean.

    #160569
    macladd
    Participant

    Re: ceramic, halogen or magnetic hob?

    ciavdivs wrote:

    We are moving from a gas area to a non-gas area, and must pick a hob.
    I have used ceramic in the past and hate them as there is little control over heat: ‘it’s impossible to turn down the heat quickly’ is my main bugbear.

    Im a little confused here, when you refer to “ceramic” do you actually mean a solid hotplate?? (ie slightly raised grey stone looking rings)

    Ceramic/Halogen hobs are very similar, both heat sources are located under glass, Ceramic uses a quick heat radiant ring, where halogen uses an almost instant heat from the light supported by a radiant ring. Both are extremely controllable/responsive

    Solid uses an element built into the solid surface which heats up very slowly and cools even slower, they are mostly found on basic cookers/hobs and are not very controllable at all.

    Induction is expensive and needs cartain types of pans….

    I would recommend a good quality ceramic hob with a couple of halogen zones built in. Zanussi make a nice 60cm slot in one

    #160570
    Martin
    Participant

    Re: ceramic, halogen or magnetic hob?

    macladd wrote:Im a little confused here, when you refer to “ceramic” do you actually mean a solid hotplate?

    Your confusion got me also trying to figure out why the hell the whitegoods industry refer to them as “ceramic hobs” when in fact they are made out of glass????

    ceramic
    β€’ adjective 1 made of clay that is permanently hardened by heat. 2 relating to ceramic articles.
    β€’ noun (ceramics) 1 ceramic articles. 2 usu. treated as sing. the art of making ceramics.

    β€” DERIVATIVES ceramicist noun.

    β€” ORIGIN Greek keramikos, from keramos β€˜pottery’.

    :con:

    #160571
    woz
    Participant

    Re: ceramic, halogen or magnetic hob?

    The name Ceramic came from when they were first invented.

    The hotplates were approx 15cm deep and had a ceramic lining which made them completely useless interms of the sheer size of the whole hob and the weight.

    Also the first transparentish tops were labelled CERAN.

    So now you know :lesson:

    If i’m wrong (which i don’t believe i am) then i’ll apologise now.

    Woz πŸ˜€

    #160572
    clementine
    Participant

    Re: ceramic, halogen or magnetic hob?

    Hi Claudia,
    I too am thinking of buying an induction Hobb. Have always had gas till now but totally remodelling kitchen and with 4 children want something easier to clean. I do a lot of stir frys in wok type pan and am not sure if an induction hobb lends itself to this type of cooking. If it doesn’t then I won’t bother as its a very vital part of my fairly limited cooking repetoire!

    can anyone advise me on this?

    I found the advice given here on repairs and isolated cooking zones very useful and I will now find out which makes have this, like Zanussi, for example.Miele would be my preferred choice but it is much more expensive than the others and frankly apart from reliability they all do much the same thing- assuming one is comparing like with like re. functions and power etc.

    On a purely practical note, I am having the hob inlaid on black granite and whilst the frameless black induction hobs look very cool and seamless I wonder if the stainless steel framed ones are more practical in terms of dirt build up and cleaning round the edges. This applies to all electric hobs i suppose but I would very much welcome anyones advice on this, from experience.

    Regards
    Clementine

    #160573
    ANDYVIVO
    Participant

    Re: ceramic, halogen or magnetic hob?

    From experience, I prefer the chamffered glass edge rather than with trim, it is a lot easier to wipe clean.
    The only type of cooking induction does not lend itself too is FlambΓ© cooking.
    As long as the wok is magnetic, then there is no problem in using this type of cookware.
    All cookware to be used on induction must be magnetic! (check with a fridge magnet )

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