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hi this is a friends machine the worst type. he says it is not cleaning clothes have checked it quickly but said would pop back. fills,tumbles reverses heater comes on empties rinses and spins but clothes aint clean 👿 . any body any ideas he is using branded powder which he has always used machine approx 4 years old. thanx
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Very common this on these 904/2426/02 timer/mods. They skip through too quickly. Change the timer and all should be well. Check thermister though first to make sure around 20-30K when cold. We have the timers in stock. Tony EMW
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Simply check the heater, internal toc can go OC. The control unit will advance the timer past the heat position after a set period if it senses no rise in temperature. Often a heater fault, rarely a control fault.
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Tony_EMW wrote:Very common this on these 904/2426/02 timer/mods. They skip through too quickly. Change the timer and all should be well. Check thermister though first to make sure around 20-30K when cold. We have the timers in stock. Tony EMW
Tony, surely you don’t condone changing timers as a matter of course before checking every other component?
I’m with Jim here, much more likely to be a heater problem.
Bob
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Hardly….. We take timers back after they have been fitted for 21 days for a mere £5+vat so I’ve no interest in pushing timers that aren’t going to be needed. I am only making the point that, in my experience (over 5000 of these tested by me), skipping heat due to a timer fault is way way way more common than heater or thermister faults. I ASSUME any engineer would always check the other machine components before fitting timers. Not always the case, but our timer return policy acts as a financial safety net when needed.
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Tony,
This is quite an interesting topic. I have worked on Hotpoint machines for nearly 20 years and I have never known a timer skip a heat pause for any other reason than a faulty heater, thermistor, economy button or wiring fault.
I am not doubting your integrity… far from it. I just don’t like module/timer changing as the first line of attack.
Unfortunately, in my experience, many [inexperienced] engineers seem to think along the same line as the customers. … “The timer is the bit that I operate so that must be the faulty component”. As you are well aware, this is more often than not the case.
I would imagine that you get quite a few timers returned for a refund for this very reason.
Bob
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I have also worked on mainly Hotpoint machines for well over 35 years. I do not change a lot of WM hybrid timers, however the most common fault I get is blown tracks due to motor/interlock faults. Almost all of these I repair with a quick solder and a link.
Some years ago there was a fair number of machines sticking on heat and boiling due to control unit failure but that seems to be long in the past. I have changed several hybrid units for ‘no spin’ conditions even though the motor was running.
I have never, ever had a timer skipping the heat phase, when this has occurred it has always been a faulty heater or wiring.
And at 45 plus calls per week for 35 or more years works out at rather a lot of machines. The chances are I would have seen at least one machine skipping a heat pause due to timer failure by now.
That said, because the machine does advance out of the heat phase after a set time when the heater has failed, it does mean that many customers are blissfully unaware of any fault unless they have very heavily soiled laundry.
Jim.
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