dual fuel dilemma

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  • #34190
    kladave
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    As a wta member,i would like to ask what is the stance taken over working (electric side) on dual fuel cookers when not corgi registered.

    dave

    #241578
    Martin
    Participant

    Re: dual fuel dilemma

    kladave wrote:As a wta member,i would like to ask what is the stance taken over working (electric side) on dual fuel cookers when not corgi registered.

    Have a good read of this link Dave and make your own mind up. 😉

    http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/modules.p … ic&t=29558

    Also it is important to note that unless you declare to your Public Liability insurers the fact that you intend working on dual fuel appliances whilst not being Corgi registered, they will adjust their records and, likely as not, their premiums? 🙁

    If they have a clause exemption within your policy then you’d best watch out and steer well clear of gas!

    #241579
    VillageIdiot2
    Blocked

    Re: dual fuel dilemma

    A post I put up in another forum Jan 2007:

    “We have just recently joined the Corgi register and during a ‘pre registration’ interview with our local Corgi Inspector, I asked the question…………..

    (I’m not using the technical jargon here now, nor quoting the Inspector, just posting my interpretation of his answer)……..

    Q – Can a non Gas qualified Engineer carry out repairs on duel fuel cooking appliances?

    A – Yes. Only if you have to break into the gas system to change a component do you have to be deemed competent and be qualified accordingly whilst being on the Corgi register.

    I send my Engineers to carry out elec work on gas cooking appliances and told the Inspector that also, (he did not object) however, they are all aware of the actions to be taken if they or the customer discover a gas escape. ”

    If you’d like, I will contact Corgi again and question their Technical desk and post the responce.

    Adrian 🙂

    #241580
    kladave
    Participant

    Re: dual fuel dilemma

    washdoctor wrote:A post I put up in another forum Jan 2007:

    “We have just recently joined the Corgi register and during a ‘pre registration’ interview with our local Corgi Inspector, I asked the question…………..

    (I’m not using the technical jargon here now, nor quoting the Inspector, just posting my interpretation of his answer)……..

    Q – Can a non Gas qualified Engineer carry out repairs on duel fuel cooking appliances?

    A – Yes. Only if you have to break into the gas system to change a component do you have to be deemed competent and be qualified accordingly whilst being on the Corgi register.

    I send my Engineers to carry out elec work on gas cooking appliances and told the Inspector that also, (he did not object) however, they are all aware of the actions to be taken if they or the customer discover a gas escape. ”

    If you’d like, I will contact Corgi again and question their Technical desk and post the responce.

    Adrian 🙂


    Yes please adrian

    thanks dave

    #241581
    VillageIdiot2
    Blocked

    Re: dual fuel dilemma

    No probs Dave, I’ll post my responce tomorrow

    Adrian 🙂

    #241582
    aqualectric
    Participant

    Re: dual fuel dilemma

    Adrian, could you ask afterwards that they could put the answer to the ultimate white goods question in writing? Corgi seemed to have avoided doing this before.
    What do you think? Worth a try?

    Steve.

    #241583
    Lawrence
    Participant

    Re: dual fuel dilemma

    Depends if Ade can blood out of a stone 😆
    Lawrence

    #241584
    VillageIdiot2
    Blocked

    Re: dual fuel dilemma

    Lawrence wrote:Depends if Ade can blood out of a stone 😆
    Lawrence

    Time for the bear prodding stick to come out! 😆

    #241585
    Lawrence
    Participant

    Re: dual fuel dilemma

    washdoctor wrote:

    Lawrence wrote:
    Depends if Ade can blood out of a stone 😆
    Lawrence

    Time for the bear prodding stick to come out! 😆

    😆 😆

    #241586
    VillageIdiot2
    Blocked

    Re: dual fuel dilemma

    2 attempts to get through to Corgi Tech desk today…. hung up both times after holding for about 10 mins each time….. will try again tomorrow.

    Adrian 🙂

    #241587
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Helpful spods aren’t they? 😉

    K.

    #241588
    VillageIdiot2
    Blocked

    Re: dual fuel dilemma

    Just spoke to Ray on the corgi technical helpdesk. He says yes, non registered engineers can work on the electrical side of a duel fuel providing the gas system does not need to be broken into. I have asked for that in writing and I have been asked to put my request in an email and email it to him. He says he will then put it into writing for me to publish to the WTA members.

    Adrian 🙂

    #241589
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Cool, you got someone sensible. 😉

    K.

    #241590
    kladave
    Participant

    Re: dual fuel dilemma

    Adrian,many thanks

    dave

    #241591
    Martin
    Participant

    Re: dual fuel dilemma

    Cool?…….really? :rolls:

    washdoctor wrote:Just spoke to Ray on the corgi technical helpdesk. He says yes, non registered engineers can work on the electrical side of a duel fuel providing the gas system does not need to be broken into.

    Adrian, my point has always been the question as to how one legally defines that term “providing the gas system does not have to be broken into”??????

    I don’t need to remind you of the purpose of why the HSE co-ops Corgi to police gas related repairs in the UK, or their remit. Nor can one question the qualifications of those many Corgi approved fitters who undertake the stringent rules one has to apply when dealing with combustable products. But the issue here is to realise the dangers of simply allowing a carte blanch go-ahead to those that are not suitably qualified in dealing with the dangers of gas. By saying that it’s OK to fix ’em as long as ya don’t touch the gas supply. 👿

    If the WTA is to take any route in that direction I would suggest you get more than just the say so of Corgi’s Tech Desk. I would further suggest also that the best line would not to promote any work by non Corgi registered engineers at all on any gas appliance, dual fuel or otherwise, especially those that sign up to the WTA!!!!!!!!!!

    Yeah and I know that many WP’s give shed loads of gas work and their agents have been doing them for years – fact! But it is wrong, very wrong and needs clearly defining in order to continue. Meanwhile the WTA should advocate caution to all its members at the very least…..and I don’t need to phone Corgi’s Tech Desk to apply that logic.

    Many electrical based engineers that fix whitegoods have little or no qualification. Many on the payroll of firms around the country barely know how to use a Loop Tester or have ever seen one. Non of them carry manometers or can spot ventilation problems in a kitchen. Haven’t even a clue what a blue, green or orange flame represents or can spot the dangers of a corroded burner or faulty FSD. But that’s OK ‘cos they don’t touch that anyway?………..

    ….mind they don’t trip up on their spurs on the way out!!!!! :rolls:

    Gas = Corgi approved fitters and engineers…period, for the WTA to say otherwise is not a good move IMHO

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