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The rule which allowed the fitting of non-fsd gas cookers manufactured before 1/1/08 in flats has now expired (1st June) from now on all new gas cookers fitted in flats must have fsd’s on all burners irrespective of their manufacture date……. this rule does not affect second hand cookers.
Re: Non FSD cookers in flats, update.
A little bird has just informed me that as from the first April this year manufacturers can no longer supply any gas cooker without a fsd. No firm date yet for retailers to sell the old ones through though.
There will no doubt be some “dumping” of manufactured stock to the likes of DAD and Portway at bargain prices so I`m led to believe.
Don
Re: Non FSD cookers in flats, update.
wsts wrote:this rule does not affect second hand cookers.
just like every other bit of legislation it seems. the issue being that the s/h gas cookers are almost always more likely to be more dangerous than the new out of the box models.
Re: Non FSD cookers in flats, update.
Hi
Just to clarify !!
wsts wrote:
this rule does not affect second hand cookers.
just like every other bit of legislation it seems. the issue being that the s/h gas cookers are almost always more likely to be more dangerous than the new out of the box models.If you install a second hand cooker / hob /oven.. then it is classed as a NEW installation and they ARE NOT allowed to be installed into any building that has more than one household. eg masonettes,studio flats ect.
Also its now been clarifed by HSE that IF you disconnect the bayonet fitting whilst carring out a electrical repair then you must be compedent to reconnect the said gas appliance..which is gas safe registered.
Bryan
Re: Non FSD cookers in flats, update.
r600a wrote:Also its now been clarifed by HSE that IF you disconnect the bayonet fitting whilst carring out a electrical repair then you must be compedent to reconnect the said gas appliance..which is gas safe registered.Bryan
Hi Bryan
can you point me in the direction of the relevant info
LawrenceRe: Non FSD cookers in flats, update.
Hi lawrence
tech bulletin 25 on gas safe register,the customers are allowed to disconnect for cleaning ect but anyone at WORK must be compedent.
Bryan
Re: Non FSD cookers in flats, update.
r600a wrote:
If you install a second hand cooker / hob /oven.. then it is classed as a NEW installation and they ARE NOT allowed to be installed into any building that has more than one household. eg masonettes,studio flats ect.
BryanIs this new because if you read clause 8.2.1 it quite clearly states new appliances:
The requirement was never intended to ban the use of previously-used appliances and the following amendment to clause 8.2.1 clarifies that intent, i.e. the requirement now mentions ‘new’ and the new Note 4 addresses previously-used appliances. The requirement was intended to ensure that new appliances were compliant if installed from 1st January 2008.
Re: Non FSD cookers in flats, update.
Hi
this was something discussed in my latest training that ended last week,so yes it may well be a latest update as it was only last week.
BryanRe: Non FSD cookers in flats, update.
r600a wrote:Hi
this was something discussed in my latest training that ended last week,so yes it may well be a latest update as it was only last week.
BryanUnless I see it in writing I will be dubious, people have been constantly getting this one wrong and saying what you did from the moment the fsd rule came in.Re: Non FSD cookers in flats, update.
r600a wrote:
the customers are allowed to disconnect for cleaning ect but anyone at WORK must be compedent.so thats easy. you want to work on it you just make sure the customers disconnected it before you get there because they happen to be cleaning at the time.
but seriously
im not condoning non gas safe connection, i just dont understand why if theres so many grey spots/gaps in the legislation to allow the customer to do things, then whats the point in having such legislation for engineers? I mean half the customers out there are so dozy they probably wouldnt know if it was hooked up properly or not…
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