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As a warning to all the Ecover/low temperature users out there. This is the drum support of a washing machine that has been used with Ecover detergents and low temperatures.
This is not from a low end, budget machine, it is a high quality, German made AEG Lavamat. 😥
You have been warned. 😉
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“Simply” has excellent green credentials and does actually clean clothes.
Penguin45.
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This customer is now converted to using Simply by Aquados, and will also be doing a regular maintenance wash from now on, I wonder who told her. 😉
Jim.
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Interesting. I have renewed the spider on a friends old style Hotpoint 1st Edition twice in the last 12 months. She uses Ecover.
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Wife has been using ECOVER for years and no problems, could it be the water?
Bill 😮
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The water in this area is very soft, the constant use of low temperature washes is a big factor but cheap detergents, all liquids and in particular Ecover cause this type of failure to occur at a much greater rate.
Ecover is just not up to the job. I go into many houses that use Ecover and if I ask for a towel or similar I can see just how dingy they look in comparison with my own laundry ( washed in Ariel BTW).
If you really want to save the planet and wash your clothes properly at the same time then THIS is what you should be using.
Also most machines that have been used with Ecover for several years in this area smell badly as well. :rolls:Jim.
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Have learnt something here, shall stop using Ecover and order some Aquados.
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Ecover is really not very good, although you could sum it up in one word, four letters, starts with “C”. 😉
On test it came out worse than many “own brand” detergents, a lot worse. Stain removal is rubbish. Whitening, rubbish.
It’s only environmentally friendly because they say it is, I’m saying no more or I’ll go off on one about it, just ask for the proof of that claim and you’ll get a surprise.
K.
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Hi guys.I’m a newbie to all this.I’ve just bought a bosch(now 3 days old).From what i can gather, this Ecover is dismal stuff.Am i right in using Daz powder at 30/40 degrees for my whites and fairy non bio powder for my coloureds(mainly blacks/denims) or would you recommend alternatives?Your feedback is much appreciated.My clothes are pretty expensive and i’d like a bit of longevity from my new washer.By the way, i dose according to my medium water area.Cheers.Damo.
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Damo666 wrote:Am i right in using Daz powder at 30/40 degrees for my whites and fairy non bio powder for my coloureds(mainly blacks/denims) or would you recommend alternatives?.
Hi Damo,
No, that’s not correct. A basic guide can be found from this link
HTH
K.
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@kwatt..Thanks mate.I followed the link.Seems i’m right in using daz for whites.Instead of the fairy non bio though, i gather i should be using some colour safe ariel or similar.Would you agree?.I was under the impression that non bio powders contained no bleach agents.Re: Ecover & low temp washes.
Daz is not bad, but not at 30/40° for whites, should be 60°.
Non bio detergents are just that, they do not contain enzymes, they do however vary greatly in the amount and quality of the other ingredients contained, thats why Ariel performs better than most if not all others.
A colour detergent can be bio or non bio but does not contain bleach.
Jim.
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Todays trend is that we are all indoctrinated by press and media alike into thinking GREEN :rolls:
The reasoning is sound and arguably sustainable in many aspects of modern life, none more so than the choice of detergents.
If you choose to beat your dirty knickers on a stone beside the Ganges or whop a handful of ‘super white bio sprite’ into your soap drawer in Mansfield, the choice ultimately is yours and yours alone. There’s a lot to choose from it has to be said, and most work (if only you take time to read the instruction label that is?).
The UKW guide to sudsy things is almost all encompassing I would say except that it fails to address those that live in rural areas with septic tanks, cesspits etc and those that need to carefully consider products that are ‘bio-degradeable’? There’s plenty coverage of the effects of bleach and enzymes within but nothing to convince those seeking green alternatives otherwise? The myth too about skin complaints and biological powders has little standing toward those that realise the negative reactionary effects toward those that have eczema and psoriasis.Ecover and Simply being just two brands that primarily address these concerns to a greater extent and will therefore be their chosen brands to those amongst us that have tried alternatives with little success.
Having said that, most all products these days should be geared toward bio-degradability, and calling a halt to the many pollutant ingredients they incorporate. But they know, as do I, the two don’t necessarily go together?
The current situation is quite obvious: –
If you want clean and aren’t interested in green? Then choose anything on your supermarket shelf.
If you have sensitive skin? Then do read carefully all the information available here as you may be guilty of not reading your chosen products washing recommendations anyway?
If you want green and not too fussed about clean? Then choose Ecover, Simply or some such brand
If you are worried your cesspit/septic tank is about to burst? Then you’re washing your smalls in non-biodegradable products and you are in deep doodoo!!!!!!
Footnote:
Aluminium alloy drum shafts corrode (rust) after prolonged exposure to all types of detergents be they biological, degradable or otherwise. The fact is there are more cases of rotted/collapsed drum spigots by those using Ariel than Ecover. The only difference being that Ariel outsell Ecover by an overwhelming margin at this present time so both are just as guilty….Go figure!!!!! 😀 😉 😉 😉
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Martin wrote:
Footnote:
Aluminium alloy drum shafts corrode (rust) after prolonged exposure to all types of detergents be they biological, degradable or otherwise. The fact is there are more cases of rotted/collapsed drum spigots by those using Ariel than Ecover. The only difference being that Ariel outsell Ecover by an overwhelming margin at this present time so both are just as guilty….Go figure!!!!! 😀 😉 😉 😉
I change two or three drum supports every week. mainly on Hotpoint machines.
As I mentioned in the first post low temperature washes are equally to blame.That said I have not seen any serious problems with Ariel green box powder or tablets at low temperatures, only with the liquids.
In the main the grottiest, smelliest machines in my area are the Ecover users, closely followed by users of Fairy and Almat etc.
PS. how can an alloy ‘rust’ :rolls:
Jim.
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iadom wrote:PS. how can an alloy ‘rust’ :rolls:
OK Jim, for ‘Rust’ read ‘Corrosion’..OK?
Aluminium or in this case : aluminium alloy, suffers from the effect known as ‘pitting’ of which, through exposure to ‘Halide Ions’ (i.e combination of Oxygen and Chloride usually) causes the alloy to ‘rust (corrode). Chloride substances are found, not surprisingly, in washing detergent, hence the effect! 😉
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