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May 30, 2009 at 10:53 am #46083
Phidom
ParticipantToday I took delivery of the three Merloni/Hotpoint bearing tool kits recently offered in the Classified section. The main one I wanted was the WMA kit as I’ve never found a satisfactory way to remove the front bearing outer race. I had an insert tool made for this job when I first started doing these but it was not successful and I usually end up having to weld the insert to the race to stop it from being forced out. I thought with the genuine Hotpoint kit my problems would be over. The kit, C00194146, comes with a DVD instruction film. I watched the film and realised that the kit does not contain any parts for pressing out the race, it just tells you to drift the race out. One of the tool kits does come with an item which might be a drift but I can’t see it being any good for this application. 🙁
May 30, 2009 at 11:03 am #288157bzz67
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blimey and around £100 each you must be gutted. iam glad i never got one myself.
May 30, 2009 at 5:18 pm #288158hotpnt
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HI, just to clarify, they were not sold as £100 each, there were 3 brand new kits, £100 for the lot!!!
May 31, 2009 at 1:57 am #288159Madmac
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Phidom, for WMA’s just heat up the alloy sleeve & bash the f*ck out of the outer bearing ring, never fails IMO. 😉
May 31, 2009 at 6:39 am #288160Phidom
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What do you use, a hot air gun? I would be worried about melting the plastic.
May 31, 2009 at 8:11 am #288161Madmac
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Nah, blowtorch, havnt managed to melt the drum yet, but go canny of course 😉 I find a good heating, tip it on its back & liberal spray of WD40 round bearing ring works well.
If its really stuck, i leave it on its back for a while for the oil to penetrate & then heat it again (the alloy) a decent drift with an edge that catches the bearing edge is essential of course.. then grab yer biggest hammer & think of the taxman, ex wife, etc.. 😉May 31, 2009 at 8:27 am #288162Madmac
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PS, if it STILL wont move, i very occasionally resort to my Dremel & mini grinding discs, kinda slow & smelly (the job, not me) but once you get a couple of good slots in the ring it will eventually give up.
Of course all this wouldnt be needed if the bloody punters would call us earlier.. but do they ever?? :rolls:
May 31, 2009 at 4:27 pm #288163LJDomestics
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dremel for me also!
June 1, 2009 at 11:10 am #288164neilsukwg
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Just out of interest, what are you guys charging for this kind of sweaty job?
Neil
June 1, 2009 at 12:26 pm #288165grazzamongrel
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yes what do you charge for bearing change??
i always recommend rear drum half replacement at a cost of aprox 130 – 150 total with a years guarantee.
June 1, 2009 at 6:18 pm #288166Madmac
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Wish i could get that grazza, i find £80/£90 is about as much as they’ll stand 🙁 thats supply/fit bearings only of course. Luckily WMA’s WF’s etc usually survive with the spider fit for reuse i find.. helped by the fact we dont have a Bronze to worry about of course.
Make sure theres no play in the shaft once back together though, i found the 30mm set up particularly wont cope with any, one i had a couple of years ago with a hint of play i thought i would get away with lasted just over a month.. 🙁
June 1, 2009 at 9:38 pm #288167grazzamongrel
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never had a recall on any drum job i have done and leave the customer very happy with a quiet machine. only 150 if drum support is needed. still get called back by custs for other apps so must be happy with the price 😀 you gotta think parts are gonna be 60 to 70 for me to buy. oh and a years guarantee to sweeten the deal
June 2, 2009 at 8:35 am #288168Phidom
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If a bearing has been turning on the shaft and there’s slight wear you can use Loctite Bearing Fit to glue the new bearing to the shaft. I’ve not needed this on the Hotpoints so far but have used it a few times on Zanussis. In such cases the shaft O/D is generally only undersize by about 0.001″.
June 2, 2009 at 7:25 pm #288169Madmac
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Yep, bearing lock definately helps with marginal shafts Phidom, if i could get the punters to pony up the kinda cash grazzamongrel gets though, i would definately replace more spiders.
If only customers were more like one i had last week.. retired marine engineer, stopped his wife using the machine the moment his well trained ears detected a poory bearing & called me in.
Honestly, what a joy to do, completed in an hour ( 10 yr old Zan) 🙂June 3, 2009 at 3:34 pm #288170grazzamongrel
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now then zanussi washing machine bearing change is a different matter.
i have never done or attempted one because it looks like a lot has to be dismantled, so on that note how do you go about bearing change on a zanussi washing machine or even better a washer dryer. and how much do you charge for it?? -
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