Tips, Tricks & Shortcuts

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  • #46660
    Martin
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    This Sticky thread is long overdue in providing trade members with essential help on products they perhaps were reluctant to take on. The idea borne out of a number of requests of late from those that are anxious for help in all things that may need taking apart to fix. Those that are tempted to venture into repairing brands or types they were otherwise reluctant to touch through lack of essential information.

    It is hoped this thread can be built up to cover all aspects of the trade from washers to microwave, fridges to cooker hoods and all in between.

    DO PLEASE NOTE that it is the intention of ALL contributors of this thread that all information given is FOR TRADE USE ONLY and NOT to pass on the information to the Public Forums wholly or in part. –THANK YOU!😀


    I’ll kick this off with some BSH tips, tricks & shortcuts : –

    Replacing the brushes on m/c’s with the ‘teardrop shape’ back panel

    Remove the teardrop panel only to take the belt on and off. Do not attempt access to the motor bolts through the back panel. Access from underneath (some variants have a base held on with 8 T20 screws – remove first) having tipped the m/c sideways by 45 degrees or better still tipping it forward 45 degrees will give great clearance for the longish bolts to clear the cabinet. (Essential tool required is a 1/4 inch ratchet with a 10mm socket)

    Removal of motor and brushes from that point is quite obvious however do make sure you refit the wiring securely through the plastic splash guard using a new cable tie!


    BSH integrated dishwasher access -the dreaded three-legged versions

    Remove the front decor panel first. Normally held in place by 4 countersunk woodscrews in the top corners and 2nd screws up from the bottom. Also remove the 2 nylon blanking plugs on the edge of the door frame to access and loosen the T20 screw clamps. Keep a tight hold of the decor panel all the while. Once free, lift up and off.

    Before pulling the machine out mark carefully the position of the top fixing plates to ensure you refit in same location. Once they are free the 3 legs need lowering to within 1 inch * of the floor before attempting to pull clear. lower the 2 front legs first and then using the slotted central black screw, turn counter-clockwise to lower the rear leg by a similar amount. (whilst turning that screw you will notice the machine levelling up straight in line with the front legs.

    Once all legs are safely retracted *, then carefully drag the machine out whilst feeding the pipework in unison (if necessary?)

    * Legs to be lowered as far down as possible will ensure they are not damaged when dragging and tipping the machine.

    BSH Dishwashers – access to Circulating Pump & Instantaneous Heater

    Remove outer door panel, top, side panels and concrete counterweight. Remove salt cap and unscrew the locking collar. Remove filters to access and remove 4 (T20) screws holding tub, remove screws and loosen top spray from sump. Drain off excess water in sump and salt container to prevent spillages.

    Disconnect water matrix on L/H/side away from the tub. Unhook door cord nylon bushes off both door hinges, then with a narrow bladed screwdriver placed under the small nylon latches of the door hinge bearing, gently ease the door off the nylon bearing (later versions have plastic retaining lugs you need to open first with screwdriver blade before sliding down) and then lay door on the ground.

    Next, remove the 2 (T20) screws that hold the tub to the plastic base at the back and the 2 (T20) screws holding the tub on the front hinge brackets. Wedge something (screwdriver or piece of wood) between hinge supports and tub so that the tub is free and clear of them. Then carefully lift the tub off the base and clear. The sump and heater box can now be fully accessed. The heater box is held in place with 2 (T20) screws under the sump and unhooking the motor mount and the drain hose will give improved access. The Circulation Pump is a simple grommet push fit into the sump and attached to the heater box with one of those spring clips I generally chop off and replace with a Jubilee Clip as a rule.

    On re-assembly be sure to remember to use that all important jubilee clip to secure the rubber sleeve to the motor! Carefully inspect the tub for any damage before refitting and double check the the salt container rubber gasket is in place and clean before lowering the tub back in place. I find it also helps to lightly smear the black sump gasket with soap solution to ensure the tub easily relocates onto it squarely. Allow gravity for the most part in lowering the tub back down as it can be easily damaged if you’re not careful!

    Reassembly is straight forward enough but do take care to relocate the bottom door seal onto the tub lip before fitting the outer door panel!

    #290383
    timdowning
    Participant

    Re: Tips, Tricks & Shortcuts

    Dishwasher water removal

    Assuming the dishwasher is circulating, place a washing up bowl on the bottom basket and remove the upper spray arm. Get dishwasher to run and the water will go into the bowl. This can be repeated until all water is removed.

    For the water thats left in the filter area use a large basting pipette to extract.

    Then the pump can be removed for unblocking with no mess and often no removal of machine.

    #290384
    Phidom
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    Re: Tips, Tricks & Shortcuts

    Suspension Peg removal
    Machines such as Zanussi and large drum Hotpoints have the suspension dampers held on with plastic pegs. If you push a 13mm ring spanner over the pointed end of the peg it will squeeze in the retaining lug enough for removal without damaging the peg. With the ring spanner in place you can pull out the peg with pliers.

    #290385

    Re: Tips, Tricks & Shortcuts

    Bra wires which are causing noise can often be persuaded to appear through an inner drum drain hole simply by turning the drum gently a few inches in each direction. Once an end is seen sticking out grab it with pliers and gently coax it out.
    Mike.

    #290386
    paddyd99
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    Re: Tips, Tricks & Shortcuts

    Stuck countersunk pulley bolts.

    Been posted before but Ill add it here to help others as its helped me.

    If its snapping your tork bits and is stuck solid. Use a sharp cold chisel to cut a grove in the bolt at 90 degrees, ensure its deep enough because you only get one try at this ususally. Once cut, get something that fits the the grove and give it a few sharp knocks to unscrew. It works…..but maybe best to try a ber before the real thing.

    Paddy

    #290387
    Martin
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    Re: Tips, Tricks & Shortcuts

    paddyd99 wrote:Use a sharp cold chisel to cut a grove in the bolt at 90 degrees, ensure its deep enough because you only get one try at this ususally.

    …..Or maybe one of these does a neater, cleaner job. 😉

    #290388
    dal
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    Re: Tips, Tricks & Shortcuts

    Thermostats on hotpoint plus if the stat is open circuit take it off and bang it down to the floor it will then spring back ping refitt best on washer dryers hotpoint plus also if u get a leaky filter on washing machines after unscrewing to clean undo it and take it out smear the rubber ring withgrease or vasaline put it back no leaks dal

    #290389
    Hammertime
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    Re: Tips, Tricks & Shortcuts

    With regards to the original post and the three legged dishwashers……

    You can change the wash motor as follow……

    Remove the RHS and LHS panels, remove the silver kickplate at the bottom of the door (if you want you only need to remove the the LHS screw and pull the kickplate out a touch to access the screw behind). Now remove the screw behind the kickplate that screws into the bottom of the door hinge. Then to the back of the machine and remove the screw that hold the back of the wash tank onto the base (wash motor side of wash tank). After all these screws have been removed if you put your knee on the base of the appliance (LHS next to the wash motor) and grip the wash tank with both hands, you can prise the appliance apart (like a clam) and use the bottom of the door hinge, rested on the top of the base to keep held open. Wash motor can now be easily removed and refitted. There is no need to touch anything on the water intake side of the appliance and using this method, after a few goes, it is possible to change the motor in 25 minutes on a freestanding appliance.
    This also works for slimline versions, although it has to be said that they are alot harder to ‘clam’ open and care needs to be taken not to catch your knee on the heater box.
    It is also possible to change the heater in the same way, although I found it to much of a squeeze, so I flip the appliance on its ‘head’, but thats for another day.

    H

    #290390
    Madmac
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    Re: Tips, Tricks & Shortcuts

    Phidom wrote:Suspension Peg removal
    Machines such as Zanussi and large drum Hotpoints have the suspension dampers held on with plastic pegs. If you push a 13mm ring spanner over the pointed end of the peg it will squeeze in the retaining lug enough for removal without damaging the peg. With the ring spanner in place you can pull out the peg with pliers.

    Good wee tip Phidom 😉 tried it on a WMA today while doing a bearing change & it worked a treat. Leaves 2 hands free to yank yer pliers.. much easier 🙂

    #290391
    spimps
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    Re: Tips, Tricks & Shortcuts

    Magnets off old microwave magnetrons are ideal for slipping over solenoid valves (refrigeration) to check their mechanical operation.Stick them on the inside of the van roof and keep giving your screwdrivers a recharge.

    #290392
    gandh1
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    Re: Tips, Tricks & Shortcuts

    spimps wrote:Magnets off old microwave magnetrons are ideal for slipping over solenoid valves (refrigeration) to check their mechanical operation.Stick them on the inside of the van roof and keep giving your screwdrivers a recharge.

    how can you remove one safely without zapping yourself? ive worked on m/w before but only limited myself to fuses, door catches and buttons…

    #290393
    LJDomestics
    Participant

    Re: Tips, Tricks & Shortcuts

    there shouldnt be any components “zapping you” discharge cap before u work and u should be fine.

    #290394
    Taff
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    Re: Tips, Tricks & Shortcuts

    Bosch dishwashers metering chambers blocked. I always carry a spare and take the old one back to my workshop and fill the affected area with Domestos toilet cleaner and leave it for a day. I then blast is out with water using a hose pipe with copper brake pipe connected to it. This enables the pipe to be directed to the blocked area of the chamber.

    Taff

    #290395
    garn
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    Re: Tips, Tricks & Shortcuts

    Madmac wrote:

    Phidom wrote:
    Suspension Peg removal
    Machines such as Zanussi and large drum Hotpoints have the suspension dampers held on with plastic pegs. If you push a 13mm ring spanner over the pointed end of the peg it will squeeze in the retaining lug enough for removal without damaging the peg. With the ring spanner in place you can pull out the peg with pliers.

    Good wee tip Phidom 😉 tried it on a WMA today while doing a bearing change & it worked a treat. Leaves 2 hands free to yank yer pliers.. much easier 🙂

    Weld A Tbar On A Hpt Or zan weight Bolt Goes In The Peg And Pull.

    #290396
    Turbo
    Participant

    Re: Tips, Tricks & Shortcuts

    Was stuggling to find a leak on a Bosch dishwasher last week so in desperation I added some food dye while on a test cycle, it worked for me 😉 Did a test to see if it would stain the basket or arms etc

    Wear gloves and don`t drop the bottle!

    Graham

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