NESN

They are pissing people off from what I hear on the grapevine, more and more each day seem to be very unhappy bunnies.

K.

kwatt wrote:Well on thinking about the email from Jo Loach last night my only thought it this:

If that’s not an admission of coverage problems, what is?

K.

It came from her computor …..with no cc’s on it ?

I wonder who put it out…..
regards kevin…………

kwatt wrote:

ted wrote:
It came from her computor …..with no cc’s on it ?

I wonder who put it out…..
regards kevin…………

I don’t think an email like that was released without passing through the Propoganda Department. 😉

K.

The time the email was sent, after 5pm, suggests JT no longer in building. Very intriguing, certainly not propaganda. Chat tomorrow, regards Ted.

Dave_Conway wrote:JT aka John Thomas or to his friends “the prick” probably wrote and filtered it through Jo anyway, who incidently asked me yesterday if i knew anyone in Scotland who may be able to help with coverage. After rushing home to change my soaked underwear, I declined to answer 😉

LMFAO! I knew they had problems up here in the central belt a few weeks ago when they asked me to cover an outlying call in Walter’s area, which I didn’t do. It was an MFI call and, ordinarily, I would have done it but they were starting to get shirty with me and a week later they terminated me so I thought, sod that it’s their problem not mine.

I know they’ve been talking to Mike Webb in Ayr, but he does mostly chargeable work and I doubt he’d be interested in the work at the rates, particularly since he called me and asked me what the score was. I didn’t lie to the man but I did tell him the truth as far as I knew it and said it was his choice as it’s his business not mine therefore his decision to make on wherher it was worth it or not. He didn’t sound too keen though I have to say.

The laugh of it is that there are a *LOT* of other areas that they have coverage problems in right now as well, this I am aware of and they’ve had pay extra (in some cases a lot more) over the going rate they offered for Coverplan work to get it done in some cases.

And no, that email came from JT filtered through Jo for sure as there’s no way a mail like that would go out to the entire network without being vetted first.

K.

Re: Jo Loaches E-Mail

Flipper wrote: Ken I take it your still on the E-mail list even though you’ve been kicked off. This just shows how organised they are regarding communication. The latest bunch of e-mails are only being sent out because they feel threatened.

Yes, I think deliberately I’m still getting the mail as it depends what subject they’re on whether I get them or not, I’d lay odds that it is only when it benefits NESN that I get a copy of the mail. Not that I care particularly as I don’t really take much heed of what they put out as it’s generally a load of bullshit propoganda anyway to try to make themselves look wonderfull, which they’re not.

Yes, I think you’re right I do beleive that they do indeed feel threatened and probably rightly so as I don’t know how much longer that the likes of NESN will survive in the industry. The site and the list hasn’t destroyed them, only hastened the possible demise of them if they do not address their problems. Interestingly, they are their own worst enemy as far as I can see, especailly in the case of NESN, but then there’s no telling some people. 😉

Flipper wrote:NESN’s managed princples of ‘divide and rule’ and ‘mushroom syndrome’ are no longer working due to this web site and the e-mail list, all thanks to you Ken. Keep up the good work.
They will now have to start talking to us properly and treating us with the respect we deserve.

Oh how right you are on the “divide and conquer” front and they *ALL* play this game as a general rule, I just didn’t like the rules of the game and decided to change them a little bit. 🙂

It’s unfair to credit me with all this, I just put the pieces in place and into play, the trade now has to get up off it’s arse and use the damned things! I’ve given them the tools to make a difference and pointed them as much as I can in the direction of DASA as well as trying to let them be more vocal about the issues, they have to do their bit now. I’ll keep it going and I’ll keep on posting the contentious stuff where I can because, quite frankly, I don’t give a shit who I upset with my ideas but I do note that there isn’t many people, including WPs, manufacturers etc., that disagree with most of what I or anyone else with access here has to say about the trade. Quite simply, it has to change.

K.