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August 20, 2009 at 12:10 pm #47954
micromole
ParticipantHi folks, if the fridge had R600a gas in it, that explains the problem. Had a leak and the thermostat set it off. Go off like a bomb don’t they? That’s why the regulation only allows a certain amount of R600a gas in them, to reduce this problem. Just imagine if the unit contained a couple of kilo’s of the stuff, the house would have gone, never mind the fridge!
Couldn’t have been the compressor, as the source can be seen to be in the fridge compartment. Could be from leaking cream cannisters or aerosol cans containing Butane gas? I would have thought the customer would have complained the fridge wasn’t cool?(before the bang, if it was leaking gas) They’ve not been poking around with a knife to defrost or clean it have they???? There’s more than meets the eye with this one!
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DaveAugust 20, 2009 at 1:33 pm #295092oldlonely
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Being that the unit has not even been uplifted, it probably hasn’t had decent investigation…
Be interesting to find what questions you would ask…..
Has the unit still have a gas charge?
Is that a yellow/brown discolouration on the right hand liner split?, very hot condensor..?
It has a concealed fridge evaporator, seem’s no damage there?
A leak maybe down by the compressor causing gas to enter fridge drain hole?…does this unit have a mechanical stat or board?
What exactly was inside the fridge at the time? the freezer section looks fine, with the door intact.
Did she get here hands on a jar of my mum’s Onions?
Taking bets!
O’l
August 20, 2009 at 1:50 pm #295093kwatt
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It was a 2000 model from what I can gather so, the chances of this being an R600a explosion is, at best, slim.
No repairs have been carried out so far as I know.
Which leaves us only two options really, but looking at the photos, one…
Something in it exploded for whatever reason.
The other one which is less likely IMO is that something has been spilled onto/into the unit and ignited.
Whatever the reason, given the givens, I can’t see it being a failure of the unit really. There’s nothing there that could go with that sort of force, I mean it destroyed the kitchen!
K.
August 20, 2009 at 9:27 pm #295094spimps
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Interesting that the sweedish fire service investigating a similar event blamed it on a squirty cream container that was leaking,the propellent used is nitrous oxide which is produced from ammonia nitrates,it can also be used in rocket fuel 😯
Is r600a used as a propellent in any cans?
All manner of possibilities,lets hope they can find the true cause as opposed to giving possiblities.August 20, 2009 at 9:59 pm #295095roly16
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Am I missing something here? Where’s the beginning of this story?
August 20, 2009 at 10:06 pm #295096nomadPaul
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roly16 wrote:Am I missing something here? Where’s the beginning of this story?
here you go fella
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1207363/Mother-lucky-alive-fridge-mysteriously-exploded-turning-house-bomb-site.htmlAugust 20, 2009 at 10:17 pm #295097roly16
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Ah thank you! Don’t read the Daily Mail; much too left wing.
There’s no sign of a fire so it couldn’t have been R600 exploding.
It may say Creda on it but it’s a Brandt.
August 20, 2009 at 11:40 pm #295098Penguin45
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Ah – obviously a French Conspiracy in that case. Explosive orange juice would surely be a Detonation Cordiale….
:p45:
August 21, 2009 at 8:12 am #295099micromole
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Hi folks, they use butane as a propellant in a lot of aerosol cans nowdays, changed from the cfc’s they used to use. Butane is the main constituent of R600a. So you go from one problem to another. I can see us having more explosions like this as the fridges get older, corrode and people poke about with knives, also the DIYer and cowboy get to mess about with them!
David
August 21, 2009 at 8:20 am #295100micromole
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To Roloy16
Don’t you check your e-mails from UK Whitegoods????
It was sent to all of us the other day.Micromole
August 21, 2009 at 9:03 am #295101Phidom
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Emails? I never get emails from UK Whitegoods 😕
August 21, 2009 at 9:08 am #295102kwatt
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You need to subscribe to the newsletter in your account settings to get the news emails. 😉
K.
August 21, 2009 at 9:36 am #295103helo_75
Participanti wondered why this had never happened before
its one of them blomberg things that leak behind the wetwall… they are r600 units
usually they just stop working before blowing up, and they have a board not a pcb
looking at the pic, the combustion started in the top right, just about where the gas leaks
interestingly a lot of thermostats/pcbs are on the outside of the cavity, and now we know why
August 21, 2009 at 1:17 pm #295104roly16
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Some of those Brandts have a thermostat and some a pcb, but I still don’t think it was an isobutane explosion.
August 21, 2009 at 3:12 pm #295105expertcat
ParticipantWhy do you think the likes of MFI,Iceland and Comet stopped using these.
As they all suffered from internal gas leaks on rear wet wall.
When I worked at EAC had to go round all iceland customers and put 8 holes from insulation so if and when leak happened the gas should shoot through these holes..
It looks like a brandt.
What made Ocean, Brandt go bust these dam units they never solved the problem.
We even had one of these badged as icelands own make that went up causing a bit of damaged brandt came over and hastley removed fridge evaporater as these are internally lokringed not braised and they said the the insulation had corroded the lokring causing the leak.
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