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  • #56461
    chuckylefrek
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    My diplomat fan oven has stopped heating and I wanted to know if it is the thermostat or the fan element? Or perhaps none!

    The grill and top gas rings work fine still.

    I replaced the thermostat a couple of years ago but then it was overheating though the wire of the thermostat inside the oven looks quite kinked – it gets in the way when I put anything on the top shelf of the oven.

    Any help much appreciated.

    Thanks

    Paul

    #327489
    VillageIdiot2
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    Re: Thermostat or Fan element?

    Hi Paul,

    If the fan works, temperature lamp comes on, but no heat, almost certainly the element. Based on what you’ve said, if that fault was reported to me, I’d pre order an element before going to a customers house with that description…

    Adrian.

    #327490
    chuckylefrek
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    Re: Thermostat or Fan element?

    Thanks Adrian – I will order an element and give it a go. Hopefully no more difficult than replacing the thermostat was.

    Many thanks for your help

    Paul

    #327491
    chuckylefrek
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    Re: Thermostat or Fan element?

    Hi there
    I installed the new fan element ordered from whitegoods and I am still not getting any heat. I assume I have installed it correctly as it is so simple that it is not possible to install it incorrectly.

    Any ideas? Could it be the thermostat?

    Thanks

    Paul

    #327492
    bazza500
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    Re: Thermostat or Fan element?

    It could be the thermostat as washdoctor says but if the temp light is coming on then it is unlikely. The thermostat is easily checked with a multimeter if you are capable of this.

    Check for a thermal cutout in the element wiring. It will be round, about the size of a 5pence and have 2 wires going to it. You should get a short cct on a meter across it.

    Power off first though.

    #327493
    chuckylefrek
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    Re: Thermostat or Fan element?

    Thanks for the swift reply Bazza.

    I have never used a multimeter before but I am certainly willing to try. Can I pick one up from a DIY store?

    The temperature light is coming on (well I assume it is the temp light as it is the only light).

    And the grill works fine too. Still just getting cold air being blown about.

    With regards the thermostat – it is very kinked and has a bit of the wire that has covering over it inside the oven too. Is it worth just trying to straighten it or will it likely be knackered if it is kinked?

    Btw in case it is relevant, when the oven did stop working it tripped the electric in our house.

    Thanks

    Paul

    #327494
    chuckylefrek
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    Re: Thermostat or Fan element?

    Just been reading various posts and one says the following:

    “Be careful not to inadvertently Figure 3pull off the electrical wires that are connected to the element as you pull the element free.”

    I did not see any electrical wires. Once I had unscrewed the element, I pulled it out and did not see any wires. I just assumed the 2 prongs plug in.

    Perhaps this is why it is not working? Perhaps not!

    Any advice appreciated.

    Thanks

    Paul

    #327495
    VillageIdiot2
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    Re: Thermostat or Fan element?

    Ahhhhh!

    There are spades that need to be re-connected to the element. You’ll have to remove the back cover now to locate them and re-fit onto the element. I’m sure that’ll put this issue to bed 😉

    Adrian

    #327496
    bazza500
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    Re: Thermostat or Fan element?

    chuckylefrek wrote:Btw in case it is relevant, when the oven did stop working it tripped the electric in our house.

    Paul

    Everything you are saying points towards an element failure. Do you still have the old? and is there any breaks, or distortions of it?

    If there is a thermal cut out then this could have been blown when the element went although unlikely if you have circuit breakers in the house…but possible.

    You could get a meter for about a fiver.

    Possibly if the thermostat phial is broken/kinked then it isnt working causing the oven to overheat and then the thermal cut out would blow.

    All these are possibles.

    #327497
    chuckylefrek
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    Re: Thermostat or Fan element?

    I realised I was being stupid when I just pulled out the old element without realising it attaches to wires behind the scenes.

    Anyway I attached these and the oven now appears to be getting hot.

    Couple of issues though – seems to be a bit smoky inside the oven and when I turn oven off I can hear a repetive noise – kind of like something small rotating. This is continuing even with the oven turned off using the dials. The only way to stop this noise is turn it off at the plug.

    Any ideas?

    #327498
    VillageIdiot2
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    Re: Thermostat or Fan element?

    Smokey / Smell is just because of new element most likely and will go pretty soon. If there is a noise untill you un plug it, I’d say cooling fan (Under top panel) has either come loose or has something stuck in the fan assy which is making noises…

    Adrian 🙂

    #327499
    chuckylefrek
    Participant

    Re: Thermostat or Fan element?

    Thanks Adrian – that is a relief about the smoke.

    Yeah the noise does appear to be coming from the top area of the oven where the clock is but it is not a clock ticking noise.

    Do you think perhaps I knocked something when taking the back of the oven off?

    I really appreciate all this help!

    #327500
    VillageIdiot2
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    Re: Thermostat or Fan element?

    You may have disturbed the cooling fan, remove top panel and spin it, you should hear the same noise and can suss it from there…

    And no problem Paul, that’s what we’re here for 🙂

    Adrian.

    #327501
    chuckylefrek
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    Re: Thermostat or Fan element?

    Thanks Adrian

    The smoke has stopped:)

    The noise is very quiet – I have to pretty much put my ear to the top of the oven to hear it.

    Possibly when I pushed the thermostat wire back into the back of the oven it has caught up with the cooling fan or pushed some of the “wool” type material onto it. I will take a peek now.

    Thanks again

    Paul

    #327502
    bazza500
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    Re: Thermostat or Fan element?

    The noise you are hearing could just be the clock motor.

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