Which 1600rpm 8kg washer? Siemens, Panasonic or… ?

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    kunid
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    Considering the following washing machines, they all feature 1600rpm spin, 8kg load, AAA energy efficiency and 5 year warranty.

    Panasonic NA-168VG2 – 489 pounds delivered

    Siemens WM16S383GB – 532 pounds delivered

    Unsure which to go for, would really appreciate your thoughts!

    #332812
    whirlpool
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    Re: Which 1600rpm 8kg washer? Siemens, Panasonic or… ?

    hi i think i would buy a hotpoint aquaries comes with the same warrenty but its alot quietier

    #332813
    CJAPeterborough
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    Re: Which 1600rpm 8kg washer? Siemens, Panasonic or… ?

    imho go for the Siemens-the build quality is probably next best to Miele
    and if you keep it for ten years there will be plenty of folk and parts available to fix and service it.
    Panasonic is a great brand name but I never even seen one of their washing machines
    -thin on the ground=harder for parts and service.

    Looks a nice piece of kit brushless motor etc but are you a risk taker?!

    #332814
    odom
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    Re: Which 1600rpm 8kg washer? Siemens, Panasonic or… ?

    whirlpool wrote:hi i think i would buy a hotpoint aquaries comes with the same warrenty but its alot quietier

    😆 Yep, great choice if you need a really heavy paperweight to use in a couple of years time when the module blows up or the drum weights disintegrate.

    Out of the two you’ve given I’d go for the Siemens, because there simply aren’t enough Panny’s around for us to get a good idea on long-term reliability. BUT really I wouldn’t spend my money on the Siemens anyway. This is simply because as engineers we know that you can’t shove an 8kg drum onto domestic suspension with concrete counterweights and expect something that will last.

    Really if I were you I’d either save myself some money and get a 6kg German Bosch that should last 8-9 years, or if you’re doing enough washing to make the 8kg drum worthwhile, splash out and invest in an ISE, which can do 8kg loads and will last you 20 years.

    #332815
    kunid
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    Re: Which 1600rpm 8kg washer? Siemens, Panasonic or… ?

    odom wrote:

    whirlpool wrote:
    hi i think i would buy a hotpoint aquaries comes with the same warrenty but its alot quietier

    😆 Yep, great choice if you need a really heavy paperweight to use in a couple of years time when the module blows up or the drum weights disintegrate.

    Out of the two you’ve given I’d go for the Siemens, because there simply aren’t enough Panny’s around for us to get a good idea on long-term reliability. BUT really I wouldn’t spend my money on the Siemens anyway. This is simply because as engineers we know that you can’t shove an 8kg drum onto domestic suspension with concrete counterweights and expect something that will last.

    Really if I were you I’d either save myself some money and get a 6kg German Bosch that should last 8-9 years, or if you’re doing enough washing to make the 8kg drum worthwhile, splash out and invest in an ISE, which can do 8kg loads and will last you 20 years.

    How can you tell whether it’s a German Bosch as opposed to a Spanish built one?

    #332816
    kunid
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    Re: Which 1600rpm 8kg washer? Siemens, Panasonic or… ?

    Interesting read regarding the drum size.

    But it seems all the Siemens machines are 7kg + and Bosch’s higher end machines (which may be built in Germany) are also 7kg +.

    I’ve got a budget of around 500 (preferably under!), which 6-7kg machine would you recommend?

    #332817
    kunid
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    Re: Which 1600rpm 8kg washer? Siemens, Panasonic or… ?

    Some other options…

    Bosch WAE28469GB – Exxcel 7kg, 1400rpm, AAB, 2 year warranty – 362.99 (but is this a Spanish machine?)

    Siemens WM14E162GB – 7kg, 1400rpm, AAB, 5 year warranty – 399.99 (once again are Siemens budget machines even made in Germany?)

    There’s also a 7kg 1400rpm Panasonic with 4 year warranty for 368, but as mentioned above they’re a bit too new on the block.

    Heh, no idea which direction to go! The ISE machines (or a Miele 6kg) look great, but can’t afford those.

    #332818
    don
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    Re: Which 1600rpm 8kg washer? Siemens, Panasonic or… ?

    Hi

    The Bosch machines with the half moon shaped door handle are normally built in Bosch factories around the EU. The WAA series with the small square door handle and lower spec are normally made in Spain.

    A very similar thread to this one only last week where the OP had very similar criteria here ended up with a good result.

    HTH 🙂

    Don

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