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Running machine this morning with 1 bath mat and several face cloths with SMALL DOSE of detergent. Machine in a utility room and when went in just now display is showing 3 rows of flashing dashes. Machine was working OK I think, ie was just going through a drain process. Does anyone know what this means? Have looked in manual, doesn’t mention flashing dashes. Help.
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Possibly failed to spin due to out of balance load. The machine is trying to stop you from breaking it. 😉
Underloading with a single, heavy item even if you put a few small things in with it will cause this.
You need to wash the bathmat with similar items or possibly a few towels to make a balanced load.
Try the machine with no laundry in it, if it is then able to spin correctly that would confirm your original load was OOB.
PS. Page 23 of the manual does mention imbalance, the symbol could be a little clearer but it does show the lines that appear in the display.
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It means an imbalanced load which you will get washing bath mats that are not recommended to be washed in an automatic washing machine, regardless of what the bath mat maker says.
With just that in it you will get an OOB error every time. 😉
K.
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Thanks for the quick response.
@kwatt – so one shouldn’t wash bath mats in a washing machine even if lightweight ones i.e. with no firm backing, all material? I have washed bath mats before and no problem. Will it be OK to add a hand towel and start the wash again or am I going to get the same problem?
Also, why doesn’t the manual mention the flashing dashes for unbalanced load?Re: ISE 1607W
p2mor wrote:
Also, why doesn’t the manual mention the flashing dashes for unbalanced load?It does on page 23. 😉
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lol, well it might in your manual but in mine it mentions F10, F11 and F12, nothing about 3 rows of flashing dashes and I did have my glasses on!
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It is possible the manual has been revised, my machine is quite new. 🙂
From over 40 years experience I can tell you that washing bath mats, especially on their own has damaged countless machines over the years before the modern machines with electronic OOB controls came on the market.
You might need more than a single towel to achieve a balanced load though.
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@iodom thanks for your help, really appreciate it. I got my machine oct/nov last year I recall. I shall have a look for the latest manual online. Now I am going to run the machine on drain before I remove items, just to make sure it is drained properly before I remove. Do you think it would be OK to add a hand towel and wash again, as obviously not spun at all so therefore not rinsed etc? I don’t use *heavy* bath mats and I certainly don’t want to hand wash them! What are you supposed to do if you cannot put a bath mat in a washing machine?
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p2mor wrote: @kwatt – so one shouldn’t wash bath mats in a washing machine even if lightweight ones i.e. with no firm backing, all material? I have washed bath mats before and no problem. Will it be OK to add a hand towel and start the wash again or am I going to get the same problem?
Also, why doesn’t the manual mention the flashing dashes for unbalanced load?It’s not advised.
The backing on ones with that breaks up and blocks pumps and filters and, those that don’t tend to produce a lot of fluff that can have the same effect. Plus the OOB issues with them.
The OOB thing might not be in the earlier books but I’ve attached the info from the service information about it.
HTH
K.
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Thing is…
If we say, yeah it’s fine just wash bath mats then we get pummelled with drain issues, OOB faults and whatnot.
If we say no, people complain it can’t be done.
So, doesn’t matter what any manufacturer says, they can’t win. 😉
K.
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I have washed bath mats before in this machine with no problem. I also check the filter regularly and have had no fluff at all, only a 5p piece once! Which frightened the life out of us as so noisy! They are light bath mats very similar to thick towels. So the same could be said for fluffy, thick towels? But you can’t hand wash towels, would be a nightmare.
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I take the point but, towelling is a whole different thing to a bath mat. 😉
They tend not to produce ooze or fluff due to the way they’re made and, tend to be made from cotton or a cotton mix and are pretty much a known quantity as far as laundry issues are concerned.
Bath mats on the other hand can be made from all sorts of stuff and are not such a known quantity as well as there being a range of different types as you rightly have pointed out.
From a technical support or manufacturer point of view, you have to play to the lowest common denominator, i.e. you look at the worst case scenario and work to that for general advice.
K.
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Well at the moment I have a soggy bath mat in the machine. I have some towels waiting to be washed. To balance the load, with overloading it, I am proposing to drain the machine, add a hand towel and start the wash again. I take your point about bath towels but I am where I am at the moment. Do you think what I propose to do will be OK or make it worse?
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If it’s a close to towelling one you should be okay but it will need “ballast” in order to spin. A couple of hand towels or so should be fine.
We have to do the same when we wash stain samples as there’s not enough to evenly distribute and safely spin the load in any machine we test.
You have to remember that, when we answer a question on here, while we can be specific about answering the posters question, we also have to bear in mind the next few hundred people that trip over the thread and will or could, in this case, just assume that rattling any old bath mat in any machine will be fine. Which of course, in many cases, will simply not be true. Hence we have to “toe the line” a bit.
K.
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