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Notice Bosch machines now coming out with black door seals, no doubt done to disguise the mould build up.
When did black seals dissapear? late 70’s at a guess.
(ok I know ISE have them but thats hardly classed as a door seal)Also have noticed the return of the small pipe on Bosch door seals (the ones with he smaller door previously known as Maxx range but still much the same). The pipe was present on the early maxx’s and then was deleted, its now back as I did one the other day at 9 months old.
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don wrote:Not seen any of those yet Mark.
Which models are they on?
Don
did not get the model number of the black seal one as it was a connection only job. not going mad though I swear it was black!!
and the one thats gone back to the old 361127 door seal with pipe is a WAE28368GB/56Re: return of the black door seal
Notice these are being supplied as spares now in place of the grey ones; EG: 680768 now 680769 = a black door seal. Having mixed responses to them from customers….
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680769 been around a few years Mark. It is the grease resistant version of the standard issue door boot.
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Talking of which…when did they start fitting the pump to the sump assembly on the bottom of the drum. Been to one today like this with a d/c from 2009…took me a bit by surprise.
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cornwell40 wrote:Talking of which…when did they start fitting the pump to the sump assembly on the bottom of the drum. Been to one today like this with a d/c from 2009…took me a bit by surprise.
Sealed drum 😉
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Ah cheers Jim….I do remember that now….hope it’s the only one in these parts then.
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Martin wrote:680769 been around a few years Mark. It is the grease resistant version of the standard issue door boot.
Yes, obviously, but the standard is now obsolete and replaced by the 680769 which is, the point being, black.
Thing is, we are not changing loads of these for oil related issues, its the chunk out of the lip user problem.Re: return of the black door seal
eastlmark wrote:Yes, obviously, but the standard is now obsolete and replaced by the 680769 which is, the point being, black.
On a positive note, at least malodorous bacteria will be harder to spot! 😉
And if they bring back the ‘Hoover Keymatic Blue’ colour then door boot design will have gone full circle. 😀
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I suspect that you might be seeing, if it is down to the bacteria problem and, that’s certainly a possibility, because of the mammoth misuse by consumers of detergent and programs these days.
In the US it’s an even bigger issue on front loaders than it is here with a number of ongoing class actions taking place. Although that’s a minefield ATM with LG, Whirlpool and various other brands in the firing line with the Whirlpool case begin looked at by the US Supreme Court.
TBH it’s a bit of a joke because if the muppets used the machines properly and followed the instructions they wouldn’t have the problems but, as usual, everything has to work the way that the customer wants, even if it is not possible.
My take is that the instructions on the pack are wrong for modern machines, they advise to use too much detergent by a huge amount for many modern efficient machines and it’s causing all sorts of grief. But then, a detergent manufacturer isn’t exactly going to encourage people to use less and save money are they?
Add that to incorrect program use and the issues just spiral because, as cycles take longer, people start using fast washes and you get detergent residues and improper cleaning in a nice warm wet environment. Perfect bacteria growing conditions. The bacteria coming from the stuff that wasn’t washed properly.
And, in all of that, what gets blamed?
The other day I got to watch a video of a customer putting the washing on and tapping down the detergent so it was more level and the drawer could close.
You would think that common sense would step in but, apparently not.
He was complaining about over foaming and residues.
Sadly, common sense seems to have gone AWOL these days from many people’s heads.
So if Bosch have changed the door seal to hide the problem can you really blame them? I means, telling people has little effect as they usually insist that they know better or, it’s a design flaw or some other idiotic conclusion as to why it is a problem.
All Bosch are doing if this is the case, is making it so people don’t see the problem and therefore don’t complain about it.
I’m not for a minute saying that this is the ideal solution because I don’t think it is but, I can understand why a manufacturer would do it.
K.
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I got a great idea, make the doors smaller then customers wont get stuff trapped and damage the lip….what comes around.
Damaged lips are good for business though so maybe not.
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eastlmark wrote:I got a great idea, make the doors smaller then customers wont get stuff trapped and damage the lip….what comes around.
Damaged lips are good for business though so maybe not.
Or maybe make the bottom edge of the door seal a bit higher so the overall shape is a circle with a flat along the lower edge.
Did I see that already somewhere 😕 .
Or there’s those few Zanussis that had the tub laid back at a slight angle.
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Smaller doors = less capacity = lower sales = not happening. 😉
Angled drums/3D washing or whatever else you want to call it = little change.
There’s a lot more than Zanussi pulled that one, ISE included. The muppets still overload them.
Someone on here has a signature that goes along the lines of, never underestimate the ingenuity of complete idiots. It is so, so true.
K.
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Just to prove it isn’t just me, here’s the most recent article on the subject as it is a common problem in many developed countries that all are struggling to deal with…
http://yle.fi/uutiset/finns_wash_their_ … en/6724160
It also highlights that care labels can be wrong which doesn’t help at all.
K.
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