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October 26, 2012 at 2:56 pm #72176
spimps
ParticipantRepairing an electric cooked pulled out from between kitchen units and noticed the unused gas supply was capped off with a plumbers plastic push on type stop end.
Was for a letting agency so took pic and went to office to show them,also mailed a copy to them expressing my concern.

Had a reply saying they had contacted the landlords safety certificate issueing company which was British Gas and they are only concerned with the visible pipe work near meter and boiler,so wouldn’t find this anyway.
Not sure either the tenant or landlord are getting a fair deal here as there could be serious consequences for both should a problem arise.
Out of my hands now but what is the point of a safety check if this lash up wasn’t noticed.October 26, 2012 at 3:33 pm #383720Martin
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Looks a fairly standard capped gas pipe to me from others I’ve seen. At least you have informed the agents and that was the correct thing to do. I don’t believe you need to worry or bother any further TBH.
October 26, 2012 at 4:01 pm #383721spimps
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Thanks, I’m unable to see that a push on plastic cap end is OK.
Say something fell on it and it broke as opposed to a brass or copper end that would be more either soldered or screwed on and would also be more resilient.
Perhaps a gas safe engineer could advise what will be acceptable.October 26, 2012 at 4:06 pm #383722BobHope
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its not an approprate fitting and is dangerous. plastic pipe and fittings are not alowed.
Bob.
October 26, 2012 at 4:36 pm #383723Martin
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….are we sure it’s a gas supply outlet in this case anyway? 😕
October 26, 2012 at 5:55 pm #383724spimps
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Unless it’s a water supply intended for a steam oven it seems fairly certain I think.
Wasn’t going to remove the cap to check 😯October 26, 2012 at 6:07 pm #383725mirmay
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I would say that is RIDDOR reportable. Dagerous in the extreme. Given that it is a plastic push-fit cap behind a cooker with the capacity to produce enough heat to melt it, it’s a disaster waiting to happen. Whoever did this is insane. (IMHO)
October 26, 2012 at 6:25 pm #383726Jazzmeister
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That is an illegal fitting. Need to be capped off properly!
October 26, 2012 at 9:26 pm #383727bazza500
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Martin wrote:Looks a fairly standard capped gas pipe to me from others I’ve seen. I don’t believe you need to worry or bother any further TBH.
I’d be contacting the residents of all the other “standard capped gas pipes” you’ve seen….
…..and maybe leave the gas advice to the Gas Safe people on the site 😉
October 26, 2012 at 9:46 pm #383728tj5793
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Plastic fittings are not approved for Gas. Would repot it to gas safe or RIDDOR if you feel your not being taken seriously and to cover yourself
October 27, 2012 at 9:44 am #383729Holel
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mirmay wrote:I would say that is RIDDOR reportable. Dagerous in the extreme. Given that it is a plastic push-fit cap behind a cooker with the capacity to produce enough heat to melt it, it’s a disaster waiting to happen. Whoever did this is insane. (IMHO)
Yup it’s actually one of the examples they give on the GasSafe course as RIDDOR reportable.
October 29, 2012 at 11:30 am #383730spimps
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Had a reply back from agents stating that repair has been done.
November 1, 2012 at 12:23 am #383731wsts
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Its definitely RIDDOR, absolutely no doubt about it, also I believe I.D.
November 1, 2012 at 7:46 am #383732spimps
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I advised the agency in writing that it was RIDDOR reportable.
The other factor was that the property was approaching 20 years old and had 3 owners before the current landlord,when was it done would be difficult to ascertain.
For me it’s been corrected so at least it is not dangerous anymore.
I have no gas qualifications whatsoever,am I even qualified to say the origional should be checked,is it my business or concern? I am there to repair and safety check an electrical item.
What if I had said or done nothing or not noticed it?
What is the “value” of a landlords gas safety check/certificate if the inspection doesn’t find what is an unsafe fitting,weakest point and all that.November 1, 2012 at 9:09 am #383733Holel
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Sounds like you’ve taken reasonable steps to seek advice on the situation and acted within your remit.
You Informed the person responsible for the property of the unsafe situation and they have then carried out remedial work to correct it using a qualified person.
I’m sure someone will correct me if I’m wrong on this but It seems as if you have followed correct procedure.
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