Yet another “New machine” topic

Re: Yet another "New machine" topic

don wrote:Hi

The way I see this is BSH are a no go because of past experience and AEG are not fitting the bill that leaves you with two options.

It’s a pity about AEG (but I’m still tempted as they are not as bad as many other makes).

Miele have been making quality products for many years, good build quality, all machines will come with a two year warranty some will come with either a five or ten year promotional warranty. Longevity of life is a good ten years however some questions are being asked in certain quarters if they really will last twenty odd years. Expensive spare and service is restricted to Miele service in the main as they will not release any info to any independent service engineer.

I’d want at least a 10-year warranty on a Miele.
I do <100 washes a year, so it should see me out!

Second option you could consider is the ISE range of machines. These appliances were brought about by some of the engineers on this site who between them have decades of experience. In turn a good existing manufacturer was sought and who better than Asko who are a high quality manufacturer in Scandinavia. A little more than the entry level Miele machine but will come with a ten year guarantee parts and labour as standard, the engineer who installs the machine will also be the one to visit in the event they are needed, parts are cheaper and no call centre to phone.

I looked at ISE, but the size of the drum (60li) is only 20{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} up on the old AEG – I reckon, based on experience, that 10li/kg is the minimum (6.3kg of cotton in the “8”kg Siemens wasn’t leaving much room.
Also, ISE seems to have some problems, like a machine with a borked PCB being a write-off because the PCB wasn’t made any more.

Don

Re: Yet another "New machine" topic

I was looking at the ISE W256W, which seems to be the latest one as, apart from the “Eco” model, it’s the only one on the site. The capacity is stated as 60li.

The article on load size is very interesting and reinforces what I thought about loading. I reckon that the max. practicable load in a 65li is about 5 – 6kg depending on material.
I don’t know for certain, but I’ve got an impression that there is a sort of ‘break point’ on loading (perhaps more than one), where there’s a step increase in water for a small increase in load. This might not be so nowadays, but I did notice with the old AEG that a change in load had an effect on the weekly consumption (I can tell within about +-10li what I’ve used in a week if the washing machine hasn’t been used).
The only time I’ve done less than 3kg was to (re)proof some trousers on which the DWR seemed to be hydrophilic!
Yesterday I went in to C***ys to measure some AEGs: the 8 and 9kg are the same size; the 7kg is the same diameter but has a shallower drum.
Given the comments in the article re. the disadvantages of max. dia. drums, it looks as if even the smaller (by today’s standards) drums have gone the wrong way – keeping the depth and reducing the diameter would be better.