Hotpoint SDW85A has gone pop!

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  • #82149
    al2
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    Hi All
    Midcycle, and just before I left for work this morning, a pop and smoke coming from within!
    It’s only about 4 and a half years old and gets a below average amount of use as I live on my own, so not exactly impressed! Or is this about right for the life expectancy of white goods these days? They certainly don’t make ’em like they used to 😛

    Anyway, it also tripped the fuse for the downstairs sockets, but having flicked the switch there’s still no power to the dishwasher (unsurprisingly). I’m guessing it must be the power board that’s blown, possibly taking the control board with it, so has anyone experienced this before? How would I gain access to the power board if that’s the case, and approximately what sort of cost are we talking about for either or both of these boards? It’s certainly worth repairing as everything else is in excellent condition (no leaks or strange noises at least).

    Many thanks in advance.

    Alistair

    #418886
    iadom
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    Re: Hotpoint SDW85A has gone pop!

    Suspect you may have had it longer than you think, SDW85 was first produced in 2004.;) In fact if you give us the full serial number and commercial code we can date it for you, also required to identify parts correctly.

    It is an Indesit machine badged as Hotpoint, in fact if the model number is actually SDW85A.C then it is a Chinese made Indesit. :rolls:

    There is only one pcb inside the door at the top but lots of things could have caused your fault,mains filter, heater, main motor, wiring harness etc,etc.

    Visual and electrical checks of all components required.

    #418887
    al2
    Participant

    Re: Hotpoint SDW85A has gone pop!

    Thanks for the reply. I have checked the receipt and I definitely purchased it at the start of 2010, but how long it had been hanging around in a warehouse is anybody’s guess. Hopefully not too long.

    The serial no. is 810098221,
    There’s also a number 64406610000 after the serial no.

    You’re correct in thinking it may be a SDW85A.C 😥

    I’m going to take a look inside the front door first, as the burning should be obvious, so I’m sure the pcb will have blown. I assume all the power components are on this board, so it has a mains feed directly to it from the back (through a mains filter). I understand all the safety precautions as I’m an electronics engineer by trade (although not with white goods, but with hospital equipment).
    Any part numbers/ prices of suspected components would be appreciated.
    Thanks.

    #418888
    iadom
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    Re: Hotpoint SDW85A has gone pop!

    One of Wuxi Little Swan’s finest (not) made on the 9th October 2008 in China.

    As I have already said I would be checking the mains filter in the base first.

    If you do need a pcb it is around £60.00, part number C00259737. It does not need programming.

    Recognised as a fairly low end machine for quality sadly. 🙁

    #418889
    al2
    Participant

    Re: Hotpoint SDW85A has gone pop!

    Just goes to show you really don’t know what you’re buying these days!
    Here was me thinking that Hotpoint was a good old British brand, with many years’ experience of manufacturing appliances, so I couldn’t really go wrong.
    Especially at £349 for a slimline, which I believe was top of the Hotpoint range at the time!!
    It begs the question – is there anything actually manufactured outside China these days?

    What brand would you recommend for my next purchase of a dishwasher please, if you don’t mind me asking?
    I tend to avoid German companies, such as Bosch, because despite popular belief about ‘superior German engineering’, I’ve always found it to be rubbish.
    I tend to sway towards goods ‘Made in Britain’, if there are any actually left 😕

    #418890
    iadom
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    Re: Hotpoint SDW85A has gone pop!

    Hotpoint was taken over by Indesit about 12 years ago. 🙁

    Can’t think of any UK produced dishwashers, very little white goods of any description truth to tell. White Knight tumble dryers the only major one. Bosch are usually the better ones in the mid range bracket TBH but they are not what they used to be.

    Miele are very good but not cheap, not sure if they do a slimline though.

    #418891
    al2
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    Re: Hotpoint SDW85A has gone pop!

    Update…
    Well I finally got round to looking inside my Chinese dishwasher (washing by hand the old-fashioned way really isn’t that bad) and it’s very strange!

    The mains filter looks fine, as does the pcb. The motor appears to have some rust marks on it, but no signs of burning which should be obvious judging by the smoke that was coming out of it. In fact I couldn’t see any evidence of burning anywhere. The only thing that was faulty was the mains fuse which had blown.
    I replaced the fuse, cautiously pressed the on/off button (not expecting to get any response), but amazingly it powered up with the display looking fine.
    The next step was to run a program before connecting it up, just to see if it tried to start. It did, but stopped giving the expected ‘low water level’ error code.
    Next I connected it to the water supply and attempted to run a cycle. Well low and behold it actually completed the cycle as normal, with the heater and drain working correctly!

    Having said all this, I don’t expect it to last, because something has obviously burnt out.
    Has anyone any idea what could have blown, while still enabling the machine to operate as normal (albeit for probably a limited amount of time)?

    #418892
    iadom
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    Re: Hotpoint SDW85A has gone pop!

    Nothing apart from the mains filter,. :con:

    #418893
    al2
    Participant

    Re: Hotpoint SDW85A has gone pop!

    You may have misread – it’s the fuse that had blown, not the filter (admitedly I didn’t test the filter electrically, but given the smoke that was coming from inside the machine I’m sure it would have been evident even with an inspection).

    #418894
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Hotpoint SDW85A has gone pop!

    No I did not misread, you asked what component could cause the machine to pop or cause a burning smell and yet continue to work,even for a short period and I answered that the mains filter was the only thing I could think of that would cause that to happen. That doesn’t mean that there isn’t another cause though. 😉

    #418895
    al2
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    Re: Hotpoint SDW85A has gone pop!

    Ok, thanks for the reply.
    The reason I misunderstood the context of your response is that you put an emoticon after it (suggesting that it was obvious), which is one reason why internet forums/emails, etc often cause a misunderstanding and will never replace actual face-to-face conversations.

    It may be obvious to you, but then I guess you work in the trade. My field of knowledge in engineering may not be obvious to you, that’s just how it works I suppose.

    I suppose my point was that I would have expected obvious signs by just inspecting the mains filter (due to the amount of smoke coming from the inside of the machine). It’s still strange to me why the smoke seemed to be coming from within the compartment, rather than from underneath where the mains filter is actually located. I was working on logic, rather than knowledge of appliances.

    #418896
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Hotpoint SDW85A has gone pop!

    Looks like you misunderstood the emoticon, that one is supposed to suggest that I was confused or didn’t really have a definitive answer, not that the problem is obvious. 😉 Thats a wink BTW. 🙂

    When you say ‘within the compartment’ do you mean inside the tub you put the dishes in? Burning smells in that area are usually due to the heater coming on without water in the machine or the main circulation pump failing.

    #418897
    al2
    Participant

    Re: Hotpoint SDW85A has gone pop!

    Looks like I need to swot up on my emoticons then 🙂

    Yes that’s right, the smoke was oming from where the dishes are loaded, and I hear what you’re saying about the circulation pump and heater, but both seem to be working correctly as it has now completed 2 full cycles.
    It’s a really strange one this, but maybe the smoke was caused by a component getting too hot but the fuse blew before the component actually burnt out. I expect this will manifest itself again in due course when the fault re-occurs, although I would still have expected to see some evidence of burning (didn’t inspect the heater however).

    #418898
    Martin
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    Re: Hotpoint SDW85A has gone pop!

    Pardon my interruption, but when you say “mains fuse blew” do you refer to an actual wire fuse or an RCD/MCB trip switch?

    #418899
    al2
    Participant

    Re: Hotpoint SDW85A has gone pop!

    Hi there, it was both actually – the fuse inside the plug blew and it tripped the switch in the process.

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