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Hello,
This time my own washer decided to start tripping the RCD (the fuse which detects leakage current). It does it in any cyle…
First I tried another plug carefully without touching the machine 🙂 and I see 230v in the ground connector of the plug. Oups 🙂
Then I went inside the machine and tried to figure out why this is happening. In the end, machine works fine when the heater element is disconnected. After reading a lot of pages and watching a bunch of videos (including the ukwhitegoods heater testing video at youtube)….
I measured the resistance between the poles of the element and it is about 29ohm which I gather is the normal value. I tried to measure between ground and a pole and my meter reads 60k ohm. (I don’t know if one can trust the meter) which shouldn’t trip the rcd (since it would leak about 4mA only but as I mentioned, the meter is probably not trustworthy).
So my question is, can we say for sure that the heater is broken with certainty and needs replacing?
Thanks!
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I would say 99{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} certain a new heater would fix it Evren. Resistance doesn’t matter, it’s the insulation reading that is important.
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Hi,
Thanks for the super fast response. I made more tests, if I put the plug upside down, rcd trips only when heater turns on. (I guess otherwise live wire goes to heater when it is off so it leaks at any point then).
The machine is an elektro-helios tt1168 does ukwhitegoods have heating element for it? I could send photo for confirmation if required.
I also realized the motor belt was full of tiny cracks, perhaps it would be good to replace it also. Is that also available?
Thanks,
EvrenRe: heating element resistance values
No idea about that machine?
The belt should have its size stamped on it so any belt of the correct size would be fine.
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The heating element is this one 0
http://www.huoltopalvelu.com/epages/huo … 1291816120
But I couldn’t find it at ukwhitegoods shop 🙁I will check the belt tomorrow.
Thanks for the help.
EvrenRe: heating element resistance values
That element looks remarkably like an old Hoover element,
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Yes, I saw that but it has 3 connectors, while mine has 5 but obviously 3 are used, the rest just sit there and help keeping the connectors in place (they are totally disconnected). Also the original heater is 1950w, not that it matters much. But the important thing is, do you think can there be other size differences?
I tried to measure the belt and the inner diameter was about 1180mm but apparently the ones below fit to the machine (the model number is mentioned in both products).
http://www.huoltopalvelu.com/W1-03253-EL
http://www.huoltopalvelu.com/1240210102
Parts are really difficult to find at ukwhitegoods site 🙂 Is this it?
https://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/zn0803- … drive-beltThanks,
EvrenRe: heating element resistance values
That is the same belt as the ones you have linked to, the belt size is usually quite clear on the outside of the old belt.
I have found one of those Hoover elements in my stock and have attached a picture that may help.
Jim.
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I forgot to mention, the old belt had no markings whatsoever. Just black all around. That is why I had to measure it…
Thanks for the photo, I don’t have the necessary tool to remove the nut behind the original heater. It is quite tight in there. I have to borrow it from a friend. It will take few days perhaps. I wasn’t really worried about the length of the element, but the place where the element sits in, is that standard size?
Thanks!
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The length is every bit as important, looking at the pictures I would expect the width of the seal end to be the same.
The one I have measures approx. 75mm across the metal plate.
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iadom wrote:The length is every bit as important, looking at the pictures I would expect the width of the seal end to be the same.
The one I have measures approx. 75mm across the metal plate.
Hi, sorry that it took a while to get the tools. Had a busy week.
Wow, what a difference in size. I thought 1800w element would be smaller… Apparently mine is 23.5cm long and seal base is about 65mm (the part goes in hole) and the seal is about 73mm (part which stays outside and seals). I am attaching photos for help just in case somebody finds this thread 🙂
I have now cleaned the sludge from the base of the element and I will re-try it soon, fingers crossed. It makes no sense to buy an element for 60euro + belt and shipping etc. for a 15 year old machine when a new machine is about 200-250euro. Because I think there will come more problems sooner or later. 🙁
Thanks,
PS. It doesn’t work, I should have thought about the fact that actual element is inside the tube and that is faulty 🙁 stupid me…
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Actually, it looks like this one seems to be the same length. What do you think?
https://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/htr63-w … er-elementPS. Anyway, I ordered it from ukwhitegoods. Because this forum is so useful and it is fair to support you guys some way. 🙂 I will update the thread if it fits or not.
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I don’t believe this, they sent me a 265-270mm long 2400w element and it has nothing to do with the item on the web page… I checked the code printed on the box 481925928804 and making a web search as “WHIRLPOOL 481925928804 2400W” reveals the element is 270mm long. But somebody wrote on the box with a marker HTR63… 😕 what a bad luck I have 🙁
Funny enough ukwhitegoods have this item listed on their page as well.
https://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/4819259 … er-elementI opened a ticket now but it is just annoying as sending it back would probably cost as much as the element now… (with ridiculous Finnish post prices….)
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Hi Yurtsen,
I hadn’t seen this thread.
Here’s the problems with parts encapsulated as much as we could…
http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/spar … as-the-old
Generally the advice is, do not rely on images alone and even sizing info on some can be changed. This is at times completely random and completely outwith anyone’s control most often. We and all other suppliers are rarely if ever advised of any change, the only way we’d know most of the time is if it was glaringly obvious or someone opened up every spare part and checked it every time which is completely impractical to do.
This is one of the reasons that manufacturers use their own part numbers and not that of the actual producer of the component as, they can and do change.
K.
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