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December 12, 2016 at 9:03 am #90092
jise1606w
ParticipantHello, I purchased my ISE10 1606W washing machine in 2008 with no issues until now. Which is when I discovered the 10 year warranty is of no use now as they went bust in the UK two years ago. :bang:
So, I’m asking for any help to solve my issue – I decided to clean the washing machine by running it on the hot setting with some citric acid in the drum. After doing this I have got an F3 error and know that to be a drainage issue.
I have checked the pump and there’s no blockage, the pump turns as it should. So I removed the agitators in the drum and found there to be a lot of gunk underneath, quite solid as well so I’m thinking some of this may have been dislodged and caused a block.
I removed the back and removed and flushed the drain hose which was reasonably clear. After starting the machine again the pump ran for about 40 secs with no water coming out of the drain hose and then a little water did but not enough to drain the drum and prevent the F3 error.
My belief is the blockage is between the drum and the pump but am unsure what to remove next or how to check and clear this which may solve the problem.
I have reasonable technical skills but am am reaching my limits 😕 So any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you in advance :tup:
PS I’m unsure if this is connected but for the past few months the door hasn’t been auto unlocking after a wash. It hasn’t been a problem as this can be overridden by pressing the lock button to open the door but I guess it may be symptomatic of another issue coupled with the one above?
December 12, 2016 at 9:15 am #443665kwatt
KeymasterRe: ISE10 1606W problem – any ideas?
Blocked pressure switch hose?
K.
December 12, 2016 at 10:23 am #443666EFS
ParticipantRe: ISE10 1606W problem – any ideas?
The door lock issue is a child safety feature which can be set by the user.
Having said that though my own machine started doing this and I can’t get it to go back to automatic opening. 😕Steve.
December 12, 2016 at 10:33 am #443667jise1606w
ParticipantRe: ISE10 1606W problem – any ideas?
kwatt wrote:Blocked pressure switch hose?
K.
Thanks for the reply – If it is a blocked pressure switch hose can it be cleared manually i.e. could I do it? If so how and where would I find it – is it accessed from the front? I have the engineers manual for this machine which someone on your site kindly supplied, which shows how to access different parts so if you could guide me to correct one and I’ll give it a go.
December 12, 2016 at 10:34 am #443668kwatt
KeymasterRe: ISE10 1606W problem – any ideas?
It’s the thin hose from the pump housing up to the level sensors.
K.
December 12, 2016 at 10:44 am #443669jise1606w
ParticipantRe: ISE10 1606W problem – any ideas?
Yep, don’t know where that is – is it something that can be cleared manually?
December 12, 2016 at 10:46 am #443670kwatt
KeymasterRe: ISE10 1606W problem – any ideas?
To be honest, if you need help to that degree I’d suggest getting someone to look at it for you.
K.
December 13, 2016 at 9:28 am #443671jise1606w
ParticipantRe: ISE10 1606W problem – any ideas?
I’ve found the pressure chamber, to take it off and clear it (there’s debris in it) there are clips holding it in place. I haven’t come across this sort of clip before, it seems similar to a jubilee clip. Is there a special tool to take it off and is it reused after or is it cut off and replaced?
December 13, 2016 at 10:50 am #443672electrofix
ModeratorRe: ISE10 1606W problem – any ideas?
those clips are a menace. you have to bend them to get them off and use pincers to crimp them closed again
try
put a large pan of water in the machine. remove the pipe from the pressure switch. blow into the pipe then suck but not so hard as you get a mouth full of water and repeat. this action will clear it out to some degree.
when finished set machine on pump and pump out before replacing pressure pipeDave
December 13, 2016 at 1:08 pm #443673jise1606w
ParticipantRe: ISE10 1606W problem – any ideas?
Hi Dave,
Thanks for the reply – really useful. I managed to get the clip off, clean out the pressure chamber and the pressure pipe. I’m pretty confident it’s all clear though I didn’t do the pump (did you mean drain?) you mentioned as I’d done this before reading your reply – however, it may not be the problem…when I put the machine on a quick wash, the programme runs correctly; goes through the cycle of the main wash, drains the water, adds conditioner and then shows the F3 problem. Having tested this a few times after checking the outlet drain, the outlet hose, pressure chamber etc. It appears to show the F3 code mid programme.
It does pump water out during the cycles but at some point later the F3 code appears – when I press to open the door the pump operates, drains the drum successfully then opens the door.
I’m running out of areas where the problem could be – I’m not an engineer but I do know a lot about this machine now 🙂 and do have the engineers manual.
Do you have any idea what it could be causing this F3 error? Could it be electronic or should I blow, suck the pipe still and pump as you suggested?
December 13, 2016 at 8:12 pm #443674Steven
ParticipantRe: ISE10 1606W problem – any ideas?
In the sump hose next to the level sensor tube you cleaned is a float ball. what happens is that ball gets coated in scale then doesn’t move very well. You already mentioned under the paddle was blocked, the float is designed to move up and down. Either remove paddle and clean the ball and hose with descale solution or best remove sump hose to access and clean off the plastic ball, or even remove it altogether, with it out the way see if it completes without error out. If it still errors out then the could be a coin or something acting as a flap vale in one of the hoses.
December 14, 2016 at 7:25 am #443675jise1606w
ParticipantRe: ISE10 1606W problem – any ideas?
Thanks for that Steven, I’ll give it a go today and report back.
December 14, 2016 at 5:39 pm #443676jise1606w
ParticipantRe: ISE10 1606W problem – any ideas?
UPDATE – I’ve removed and, checked and washed out the pressure pipe (nothing blocking).
Removed and flushed out the waste pipe (no blockage)
Repeatedly checked the waste trap (nothing)
Cleaned the pressure chamber.
I haven’t removed the sump but cleaned the float ball as best as I can, there wasn’t anything ‘stuck’ to it but there is some debris (I managed to get a picture, which I’ve included, through the drum)
The problem still remains – it successfully drains the first, and second time during a quick wash but when it comes to, what I presume, is the conditioning cycle it shows the F3 during the draining at this point. But if I immediately force the drain cycle on it, it drains successfully. There are no other pipes I can check.
Does anyone know if this could be a electrical (circuit board) problem or an issue with the Level Switch or Level Sensor – would this cause the error at the same point in a wash cycle? Or is the gunk in the sump and float ball possibly the cause – I haven’t removed it as it’s got a massive clip on it which will need cutting to get off and I haven’t a replacement.
Failing that it looks like I’ll be looking to a new WM, which is a shame as this ISE 1606W looks really well made!
December 14, 2016 at 6:54 pm #443677Martin
ParticipantRe: ISE10 1606W problem – any ideas?
Is your waste pipe (drain hose) coupled to a sink drain coupling? If so, have you checked that that too isn’t restricted with debris?
December 14, 2016 at 9:22 pm #443678jise1606w
ParticipantRe: ISE10 1606W problem – any ideas?
Yes, I’ve checked the drain and have put the drain hose in a bucket. It drains, although slowly. So. . .
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