Adexa hl-b20

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  • #102732
    Jackso195
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    Hi I am trying to repair this mixer which someone else had a go at and disconnected all the motor wires. The problem was not electrical but mechanical with the gear change which I have now sorted. I have tried connecting as a I think it should operate for a normal motor but it is not running. Have tested all motor wiring and everything seems good. I have contacted adexa and the diagram they sent me does not match the machine and they now say that’s all they have.
    The wiring to the motor consists of 6 wires, which test as 3 pairs, pair 1 green and blue (0.3ohms), pair 2 green and blue (0.3ohms but with end switch) and pair 3 red and brown (5.6ohms). It has two capacitors start and run and both these test ok.
    The wiring to the on, stop and safety switches is all ok and switches the contactor on with the motor wires disconnected.
    My issue is with how the 3 pairs to the motor are connected together and to the contactor.
    Any help would be appreciated, if anyone has a picture of the inside of the connection box that would be good.
    Thanks in advance.

    #490243
    electrofix
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    well can make a few guesses but that all they will be

    you have a start and run cap

    the start cap will be in series with the pair with the end switch. i assume by end switch you mean centrifugal switch on the motor rotor

    the main wiring red brown pair ewill be connected directly to the mains

    after that it gets a bit i dont know

    have you got the wiring diag they sent you

    might give me a clue

    Dave

    #490244
    Jackso195
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    #490245
    Jackso195
    Participant

    The wiring diagrams adexa sent me are attached, the one with the transformer in is most like what is there but it doesn’t have a transformer.
    Yes the end switch is the centrifugal switch.

    #490246
    electrofix
    Moderator

    what values are the 2 capacitors ?

    Dave

    #490247
    electrofix
    Moderator

    both are the same diagram. all thats added to the first on its the control circuit. control circuit closes a contactor to start motor

    Dave

    #490248
    Jackso195
    Participant

    Can’t remember will check tomorrow and get back, one says run and the other start on it so I assume that’s what they are.

    #490249
    electrofix
    Moderator

    can sort of see whats going on its the second winding thats making me think. cant see how that connects with the circuit

    usually there are 2 windings , start and run
    the run winding is across the mains but the start winding is in series with the cap just to start it

    Dave

    #490250
    Jackso195
    Participant

    Hi again, yes that is my predicament. The capacitors are as shown. On my fluke multimeter they measure 11.7 run and 172 start microfarads. Thanks for your thoughts so far.

    #490251
    electrofix
    Moderator

    ok where does the centrifugal switch fit in this
    is one of the coil wires go directly to it and come out as one of the wiring pairs ?

    Dave

    #490252
    Jackso195
    Participant

    Yes it does it is one of the low resistance coil pairs (green and blue) that measured 0.3ohms and if I operate the centrifugal switch manually it disconnects the loop.

    #490253
    electrofix
    Moderator

    ok well that loop goes in series with the start cap

    its poss the other coil is in series with the run cap

    and the last coil is fed direct

    its just an educated guess and you would have to measure current on switch on

    Dave

    #490254
    Jackso195
    Participant

    Ok will give it a try, but I am away for a couple days so will get back early next week.
    For clarity the “last coil fed direct” will be the 5.6ohm brown and red wires. These have spade terminals fitted which looks like they have come off the contactor whereas the two green and blue pairs are bare ends.
    The mixer is rated at 750w so I would expect around 3A run current is that correct.

    #490255
    electrofix
    Moderator

    correct

    the only coil that can go direct is the higher resitance. with resitance alone it would draw 42A but its a coil in a steel former so that should work to reduce current

    all this is a lot of guess work with a bit of experience thrown in so hope am right but there is no guarentee in these situations

    just a pity its made by a company thats hell to get info off

    Dave

    #490256
    Jackso195
    Participant

    Tried that but still tripping the 32a ring main breaker so obviously drawing to much current. Any other thoughts would be appreciated. Megger tested all coils to earth and no issues with that.

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