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    iadom
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    I have just seen an advert for the latest Bosch washer/dryer, a Logixx7/4 in the Radio Times.

    The strapline to the advert is,

    ‘The only surprise is nobody’s thought of this before.’

    ‘It uses air not water to dry the clothes bla,bla,bla, it will save 24,600 litres of water a year’ and so on.

    It then goes on about how it is the first ever washing machine with a true tumble dryer built in, err no it isn’t.

    The Bendix machines from 40 years ago had a conventional vented air dryer in it. The first Hoover washer/dryers from around 25 to 30 years ago also had a vented/air drying system in them, there may have been others as well that I am not aware of.

    I don’t know but I’m guessing this one uses a condenser similar to a stand alone condenser dryer rather than a vented system but is definitely not the first to use air drying.

    Jim.

    #334574
    eastlmark
    Moderator

    Re: Advertising porkies.

    I saw that to, obviously meaning condenser driers but it doesnt make that clear. It also seems to suggest that normal washer driers use huge quantities of water while drying which is not the case.

    #334575
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Lies. lies, more lies and damned lies! As I think someone once said.

    If you look carefully at most advertising and/or marketing claims in this industry you will find the vast majority are at best disingenuous or misleading while some would appear to be total fabrication.

    There’s a few I’ve asked for actual evidence for to back the claims and, unsurprisingly, the proof has never materialised. Which says one of three things to me, there is no evidence and it’s lies. The evidence doesn’t actually legitimise the claims being made. Or, someone can’t be bothered to try to prove the new most wonderful thing.

    In any event, it doesn’t look good.

    K.

    #334576
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Advertising porkies.

    The parts blow up ( thanks Mark ) doesn’t look that good either, it looks like blockages ‘r’ us. :rolls:

    I think the early Colston Washer/dryers were also air vented.

    #334577
    Martin
    Participant

    Re: Advertising porkies.

    iadom wrote:The parts blow up ( thanks Mark ) doesn’t look that good either, it looks like blockages ‘r’ us. :rolls:

    Indeed so, from what I can figure is that hot air is blasted in to the tub from the door boot whilst colder ambient air is drawn in from the front inlet then through the rear condenser unit. Condensation then falls from that unit and is drained away. It has 2 fans (one hot outlet the other cold suction). The additional weight of the machine warrants 3 dampers and a conventional brush motor to drive it all. 7kg wash capacity but only 4kg wash and dry capacity.

    I think our work is far from done. And here’s hoping everyone shells out £750 for one of these. I love a challenge! 😈

    #334578
    eastlmark
    Moderator

    Re: Advertising porkies.

    Coincidently, today a customer had a Siemens brochure on this machine and showed me it. In the specs its states their normal washer drier uses 110 litres of water to wash and dry while the air drier only uses 57 (which I asume is only for the wash) does this mean a normal washer drier uses 50 odd litres of water when drying? I mean its only a trickle as far as I can tell.
    The same brochure also states a combined 60 degree wash and dry cycle takes 418 minutes opposes to 350 for the older washer drier, thats an extra hour or more, presumably all taken up by the drier.

    #334579

    Re: Advertising porkies.

    That’s about six hours! No wonder it was using 50 litres to dry if half of that was the drying cycle. Wonder how the electricity usage compares.
    Mike.

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