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  • #100446
    Twoten
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    PNC:904606026/00
    Fault with machine ‘dead’.
    Live and neutral to the noise suppressor. The live then runs to PCB. The neutral goes to a connector in the top rear of the machine between the valves and heater box as shown in the image, but isn’t connected to anything. This connector sits with another connector that has nothing connected.
    Am I right in thinking the connector with the neutral wire should have a plug attached with a jumper wire? Also, should the second plug be connected to something?
    I have been through all the tech info I have, but can’t find any reference to it.

    #480645
    electrofix
    Moderator

    if you carefully look at the display. does it light up ?

    a lot of these unit have a yellow background on the display and if it lights up you have to look carefully

    if it has a display

    wiring shows direct connection to main connector behind the knob. double check your wiring continuity between plug and board rear
    if you want to double check rig up a lead with 3a fuse and 2 spade connector and power up board direct
    insulate one of them so they dont touch

    Dave

    #480646
    Twoten
    Participant

    electrofix wrote:if you carefully look at the display. does it light up ?

    a lot of these unit have a yellow background on the display and if it lights up you have to look carefully if it has a display
    wiring shows direct connection to main connector behind the knob. double check your wiring continuity between plug and board rear
    if you want to double check rig up a lead with 3a fuse and 2 spade connector and power up board direct
    insulate one of them so they dont touch
    Dave

    This machine does have a display. None of the lights come on, the display appeared to remain blank but I will have to go back and take a closer look.
    As the machine appeared dead, I checked for power coming out of the interference suppressor (2 X grey) then traced the wires back expecting them to go to the PCB. I found the neutral went to the plug/connector shown in the picture which, as can be seen, isn’t plugged into anything so, goes no further. I vaguely recollect seeing a plug with a grey wire loop in this area on other Electrolux machines and wondered if this is missing but, couldn’t find anything in the back or base of the machine.

    #480647
    electrofix
    Moderator

    well unless someone has been playing and removed a part i cant see it

    if you look carefully at the display and it lights up with no figures disconnect the dryer element and try it then. had a few go blank with faulty TD elements

    also as above take a lead with you and you can power board direct as a test

    Dave

    #480648
    Twoten
    Participant

    electrofix wrote:well unless someone has been playing and removed a part i cant see it
    if you look carefully at the display and it lights up with no figures disconnect the dryer element and try it then. had a few go blank with faulty TD elements
    also as above take a lead with you and you can power board direct as a test
    Dave

    The dryer element had an insulation fault so disconnected it to eliminate that as the potential fault.
    I’ll go back and give connecting the board up direct a go.
    Thanks for your help.

    #480649
    Hollytree_Technical
    Participant

    I had a think about it and I am sure that you are right, there should be a connector with a short white wire link between the two outside pins at that location, I have never had one come off or go missing so assuming that it has not fallen off inside the machine and it isn’t tied to a harness or pipe etc in that area then I would have to assume that someone has been meddling.

    Jem

    #480650
    electrofix
    Moderator

    “I would have to assume that someone has been meddling.”

    that was my thought as well as it cant disappear

    have got a dead integrated zann washer dryer in the van. may not be the same but will look before i scrap out of interest

    Dave

    #480651
    Twoten
    Participant

    Hollytree_Technical wrote:I had a think about it and I am sure that you are right, there should be a connector with a short white wire link between the two outside pins at that location, I have never had one come off or go missing so assuming that it has not fallen off inside the machine and it isn’t tied to a harness or pipe etc in that area then I would have to assume that someone has been meddling.
    Jem

    Thanks Jem,
    I’ve never had one come off and considering how tight the connector for the dryer element is I doubt it had just fallen off. I looked in the back of the machine and the base in case it had dropped down but I couldn’t find it. I asked the tenant and the agent if anyone else had looked at the machine before me but they both deny it.
    I could just link it out but I don’t know if something should also be connected to the second plug.
    It’s odd that I can’t find any reference to it in the wiring diagrams and tech info I have, but the tech info covers so many other machines I’m not {e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} sure this model is covered.

    electrofix wrote:“I would have to assume that someone has been meddling.”
    that was my thought as well as it cant disappear
    have got a dead integrated zann washer dryer in the van. may not be the same but will look before i scrap out of interest
    Dave

    Thanks Dave,
    That would be appreciated.

    #480652
    electrofix
    Moderator

    opened mine and it does not have those plugs in that area

    wiring diagram does seem to show a joint and another one on the Aqua control

    Dave

    #480653
    electrofix
    Moderator

    this is what i have got in mine

    Dave

    #480654
    Twoten
    Participant

    electrofix wrote:opened mine and it does not have those plugs in that area
    wiring diagram does seem to show a joint and another one on the Aqua control
    Dave

    The ‘Aqua Control’ is the float switch in the base. The wiring diagram doesn’t indicate if there would be a connector with jumpers on it.
    I’m wondering if several machines have the same wiring loom fitted and the jumper would be removed/fitted depending on whether it has the Aqua Control.

    Thanks for checking your machine, It doesn’t look like it has the plug in question.

    I’m tempted to link the plug out to get the neutral to the PCB but without knowing if there’s any other link on the second plug I’m reluctant.

    #480655
    adv
    Participant

    am sure ave seen that on a machine before . i thought it was maby extra connectors for a different model .or for a engineer to plug into , to find a fault ?some sort of test rigg ?

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