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It’s been a trusty machine for nearly 12 years or so but unfortunately it’s missed a beat for the very first time. Some help and advice would be great please.
The machine stopped mid-wash cycle. It was still making sounds etc but the control dial was stuck half way through the cycle and wouldn’t progress.
Now I’m not sure if it’s the motor or something to do with the control board. My feeling is it’s down to the control board since the dial doesn’t progress and just stays put. It’s not physically jammed as I can turn it through the forward notches by hand, however even if I put it into the spin cycle mode the drum doesn’t turn. Maybe it is the motor ? Anyhow the dial simply doesn’t progress forward as it used to and should do through the wash cycle.
I’m not an expert but am fairly competent at getting into the guts of machines. I opened up the machine and was surprised at how logically and well built the machine is. Germans certainly knew how to do it right ! I took it apart with ease and everything looks quality ! Got the control board out but that’s as far as I could see apart from some heat marks. I could not see anything other visibly wrong with it and I wouldn’t know how and where to test it.
Not sure if it’s worthwhile getting anyone to have a look at it or just bin it for a new budget machine ISE2 or something ? I know it’s an old machine now but it looks pretty much like it did when I got it and if it’s a simple repair am pretty sure this thing will go on for a fair while yet. It’s been bullet proof build quality for me. Anyhow are these ISE2’s any good ?
Any ideas what the problem could be before I try the next step ? Any help would be great.
Thanks in advance
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No, I haven’t ? Do you think it could be those given the fault that I’m describing ?
I’ll open it up again and have another look.
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Yes, on most machines the electronics can self diagnose if the motor is not turning and will not progress through the programme.
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Got the motor out and got the brushes off. They don’t look that bad tbh. Then again I don’t know what they are meant to look like when good !
Both make sufficient contact and there is 2cm of carbon on each brush left. About 1.5cm on each one gets depressed into the spring play which leaves less than a 0.5cm protruding out contacting the commutator.
While they are obviously worn compared to a new set I doubt simply by looking at the state of them it is these brushes ? They both sit flush with the commutator and there is spring pressure behind them as well.
I could of course be wrong !
Got any other ideas ? Anybody else as well ?
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The brushes are OK then. It could still be the motor as there is a thermal cutout which sometimes goes open circuit. The AEG is a good quality machine and it is certainly worthwhile trying to get it repaired. Try the “find an engineer” service on this site.
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TBH I don’t think it’s the motor. The brushes look ok as well.
A few years ago the timer dial stopped similarly mid wash. However a few turns of it later and the machine got going again.
I really think that’s why it’s something more to do with the PCB end of it controlling the motor ?
Anyhow I’ve cleaned the motor up and am re-installing it now, you never know a clean up might give it a kick start !
I think by the time I call an engineer and the cost of the call it’s probably already worth putting that towards a new machine. As I say I’ve had a good 12 odd years out of this one.
Are ISE2’s any good and where are they made ? I heard the ISE5 is made in Turkey….put me right off that one…that’s where BEKO’s are made…
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Just spoke to the engineer. It’s £80 just call out !
Engineer reckoned if it’s not the motor, it’s the module or timer and each of those will be £100+
Labour and parts on top, so I guess this thing will have to go to washers heaven.
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Did you get a quote from AEG, or did you use the “find an engineer” function on this site?
I don’t think the guys here would be on £80 just for a look-see!, -especially as you’ve already eliminated brushes. you could also try spinning the programmer round a few times-it may possibly be oxidised contacts in the timer-a “good rattling” can sometimes sort it.
Also as Phidom pointed out, there’s a thermal cutout in the motor-if it’s gone open, it will have the same effect as a burned winding….motor will hum and possibly judder but not revolve.
The professional has given you his experienced advice! if you are unable to check with a multimeter (PLUG OUT!!!! ) use the “find an engineer ” at the bottom V
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Yes, the find an engineer was charging £78 just for the call out and minimum £100 for any of those parts !
Took me two days to get through to him and they didn’t even bother to return my messages either.
Complete waste of money going down that route for that price, I’m not stupid paying rip off prices for that kind of service…..
I personally think it’s the module and the motor controller on it that’s gone. 12 years old could be some leaky capacitors that have had it ? All looked ok though but I reckon that’s where the fault is somewhere….
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OK, that’s dear-even for London that’s dear.
maybe, and here i’m playing Devil’s advocate ) he’s snowed under with work and priced at a level where he “couldn’t afford NOT to do it) maybe he’s not familiar with AEG. maybe he included 1/2 hour of diagnosis on that.
Or maybe he twigged that you’d resent paying his charges
(the repair is then just a half-hour job,probably.)For whatever reason, If I’m soliciting any sort of business and they don’t reply promptly, I MOVE ON……there are many other repairers.
Right, so you “think” it’s the board?….you don’t appear to have the equipment or skills to go to component-level, so use a bit of initiative and take it to a radio/tv/electronics repairer.
If you are willing to pay the going rate, they’ll trace the circuit and fix a fault
but REMEMBER, It’s overheads and liabilities that cost, not the components.I know it’s frustrating when you “think” it may be a 15 p capacitor, but unless you’re prepared to substitute a lot of time and effort to acquire the knowledge, you’ll have to pay someone else for THEIRS.
A surgeon and a butcher both cut meat for a living, the surgeon just has the skill to do it without slaughtering the subject -matter-perhaps thats why he’s paid so much more.
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Well I don’t think it’s fair to name the firm but it is one off here “find an engineer”, no not London.
If that’s the going rate I certainly don’t resent paying the money. After all I’ve never had an engineer out on this machine since I bought it so not sure of what the rates were. However, at £80 just to come out ( and he’s local) I simply don’t think it’s economical to do so on this machine. He didn’t twig or anything like that, it was actually quite a civil conversation, that’s his rate.
However I did find it quite ironic that the same engineer recommended an ISE machine because it was economical to repair in the long run. That is a complete joke of an argument if these are the call-out and labour rates involved. 2 years down the line they’ll be higher as well.
Anyhow the AEG is destined to go now, but I’m quite happy to have some fun on it as a pet project before it goes. I don’t resent anything or anyone or if the fault is 15p capacitor or resistor. Of course skilled engineers are paid for their knowledge and I would be happy to do so if economical.
Anyhow, I’ll take out the module again and take it to the TV repair guy to have a look at the board at some point.
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