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Presuming this is a timer fault but it’s a weird one on a nearly mint old machine.
Changed brushes on Monday, had to order them as I don’t carry these old ones anymore, got a recall through complaining of no fab conditioner intake..
Washes fine, gets to rinses and completes the programme without any more water coming in although drains when it should and tumbles as though it was full.
Thought p/ system blockage at first but it’s clear and the switch has two levels on blow. Everything meggers fine and heater is not o/c.
Can’t see it being anything other than timer cos if pressure switch was locked up it wouldn’t spin ….would it?Don’t want to consign it to the graveyard if there’s a possibility of something else.
Cheers chaps.
TC
TC
Re: Ancient Zan FL1012 rinse fault
Hi Tony,
That is a blast from the past! Didn’t think there were any of those left nowadays.
IIRC the conditioner was done by way of an old rod off the timer cam that shoved a bar across, pushing a diverter inside the SD lid. The cams do (did) fail but usually you’d get that the timer knob wouldn’t turn if that happened.
However, if it’s not taking water on the high level it is entirely possible that the pressure switch is knackered. Again, from memory, the contacts in the timer only switch to energise the water intake, the arm assembly dictates where the water actually goes within the dispenser and thats totally mechanical.
The timer should only advance when the pressure switch clicks and releases it to advance. IIRC, otherwise it’ll sit there forever looking stupid at you.
Two questions though…
Was the water valve okay?
Did the water valve get energised for the high level fill?
And yes, I know about the whole live testing thing but you can save a shedload of time by simply putting a meter across it to see what’s happening when you get an odd fault like this.
If it’s got an old timer in it though you should be able to trace it out if you have a timer chart for it. If you don’t have one I may be able to dig one up, if it’s still around so long as you an give me a serial number as there was several variants of the FL1012 from memory.
HTH
K.
Re: Ancient Zan FL1012 rinse fault
The valve is getting a slight flick of power but only small and hardly registering when the rinses start. Hot valve is fine and yep its the old cam and rod job (the knob is getting a bit stiff as well now 😳 )
Customer was complaining that the clothes came out warm which first alerted her, ie once it gets through the wash thats it on the fill side but it carries on through the programme and spins at the end 😕 .
Connect haven’t got the timer in at £236 and haven’t got the pressure switch in at £72 either 😥
Either way I think I’m stuck with a set of old carbons and another sob story.TC
Re: Ancient Zan FL1012 rinse fault
Hmmm ‘nother thought on the pressure switch. If the switch was locked in the higher level position would it still let the wash (hot) water in first off, and would it still allow the spin cycle.
If it had lost the higher level wouldn’t it overfill.
😕 😕
Oh for an INDY WIDL board….board….board….board easy stuff 😆TC
Re: Ancient Zan FL1012 rinse fault
You could take the switch apart by levering it open with a couple of screwdrivers, being careful not to stab yourself in the process. Sometimes it’s the only way to find an internal P/sw problem as they do occasionally work Ok on a meter test but are unreliable due to burnt contacts, broken cotacts or spring stuck. It’s rare but it happens. You can re-assemble them OK – it’s nearly impossible to break them because the plastic is so tough and you can always use a bit of sealant if needed.
Only other possibility I can think of is wiring fault between timer/p.sw/valve loose connector perhaps.
Mike.Re: Ancient Zan FL1012 rinse fault
I think EMW will fix the timer on a send it down/send it back basis. Lots of these old tanks still chugging awy round Leeds.
Chris.
Re: Ancient Zan FL1012 rinse fault
I thought they used the ZEM / Sole brushes much like a modern Zanussi. The only difference might be the spade width.
Re: Ancient Zan FL1012 rinse fault
Not too bothered about the brushes, that was just me piling it on for effect 😉
There are still agood few of these in Preston too. Only ever needed to change brushes and pumps on em though.TC
Re: Ancient Zan FL1012 rinse fault
Oh, with my customers it is usually broken teeth on the timer knob bits. To change the cam you have to remove the timer screws, which easily get dropped when trying to put them back
😡Re: Ancient Zan FL1012 rinse fault
what resistance have you got asross the valve? try a valve first cheapest line to check
wilf
Re: Ancient Zan FL1012 rinse fault
I wrote
Can’t see it being anything other than timer cos if pressure switch was locked up it wouldn’t spin ….would it?
Oh aye yer daft get….look again.
Pressure switch locked out on HWL. Customer considering it.
Thanks for all comments 🙂 It’s what UKW does best……help the aged 😉
TC
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