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April 16, 2005 at 8:38 am #9034
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KeymasterOcean APM6825 Gas Bottle
The freezer compartment on my APM6825 frost free freezer is too warm. As a result we called out a repair man who tells me that the freezer bottle (R600a) is empty – proberby through leakage, but because of an EU directive, this bottle is no longer available and so the whole fridge/freezer will have to be replaced. (he could to that of course – at a price) Is this right? or should I call out someone else for a second opinion?
Thanks – Jon
April 16, 2005 at 9:32 am #131792kwatt
KeymasterRe: APM6825
Hi Jon,
R600a is the current gas being used, R134a and R12 went before it, R134a was extremely prone to blockage and was brought in because R12 was outlawed due to CFC’s in it.
Here’s the rub…
R12 is stable, well proven and just works. It’s easy to work with and rarely chokes a system and, even if it does, the chances were you’d be able to clear it. It was not poisonous, didn’t ignite till you got to silly temperatures and was pretty efficient all things considered, but it wasn’t politically correct.
The same cannot be said for its replacements.
R600 is prone to blockages (in my experience), if it chokes internally it can be a pig to cure if you cure it at all and it’s combustable given that it is iso-butane, but it’s environmentally friendly. 😕
So now a lot of guys will write the machine off as they can be a sod to repair although some, like Kevin, have become extremely adept on these systems. But the net effect is that more appliances get tossed due to this and the fact that they are “cheap” to replace and so we have fridge mountains! One “eco” solution creates another, good innit?
Probably more information than you wanted, but the gas and the compressor are availble for sure.
K.
April 20, 2005 at 11:22 pm #131793admin
KeymasterAPM6925 gas problem
Thanks for the advice – can a repair service be able to repair it based on the information you’ve provided?
Thanks again
JonApril 20, 2005 at 11:30 pm #131794clivejameson
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Hi Jon
The answer to your last question is possibly!…The big draw-back is you will incur an expense finding out whether it is repairable or not…big dilemma considering the value of products these days.April 20, 2005 at 11:42 pm #131795kwatt
KeymasterHow old is the machine? Normally any leaks will manifect themselves in the first few months. In my experiene, being supposedly SOG (short of gas) outside 12 months means that the diagnosis is likely incorrect although that isn’t always the case, but it is common sense.
In short, if it had a leak you’d notice poor or no performance inside the warranty period normally unless you’ve moved or tampered with it and bust something physically.
The compressor failing is an altogether different matter. 😕
Also if it’s not vented properly you can get issues, especially on the under-counter machines. Stupid installers just won’t read installation instructions then the appliance gets the blame.
K.
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