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Having watched the BBC news this morning re appliance fires I thought about placing an ad in the local rag offering an inspection and electrical safety test for all appliances in the house .
do you think this is a good idea or just opening a big can of worms and transferring the problem to me if there was a fire in the future
If we as a trade promote appliance safety it can only be good for us
How much is a fair charge for inspection and test of up to say 10 appliances
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No, not daft at all.
Lawrence and I were talking about a way to do it for WTA members but, with the raging debates around what constitutes a safety test anything we did would likely cause a ruck in some quarters.
K.
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Several snags to that plan……public apathy………”If it ain’t broke why mend it? mindset…….and money for nothing with no guarantees……….
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Says the man that told me that people cared on another thread just a day os so ago. 😉
K.
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I certainly wouldn’t get involved in something like that Diesel ,your name would most likely be passed to the insurance company in the event of an appliance blaze, would they pursue you for costs? who knows, I’m all for a quiet life though.
Would Also smell of trying to profit from scaremongering in the public’s view IMO, could be counterproductive. 😯
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kwatt wrote:Says the man that told me that people cared on another thread just a day os so ago. 😉
Totally different subject, totally!
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i dont know what electrical testing would do to prevent a fire tbh apart from finding low insulation Resistance etc , it seems that the fire issues are more on defective components that pass standard electrical tests.
i would be worried about customer claiming someone said it was safe and free from fire risk .. take a dishwasher wash pump with a piece of glass stuck in motor – motor overheats – whos to blame
so many variables to contend with
how many dryers to you go that are completely bunged up with fluff , frightening that they hadnt went woof.
i do get the value of a safety check
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You’d be better off promoting the fact you carry out the tests on each and every repair you do.
Personally I doubt most people are even aware of the issue, seems that way when over 500,000 of BSH clients and a further 125,000 Beko’s customers have yet to respond.
Clients are reluctant to pay much for something that they cannot view as being improved, at least if its broke they can see you fixed it when they use it, most I would believe would be skeptical that you could be trying to con them, especially if they research and find there is no legal requirement for these checks and that many millions of appliances work safely daily with no incident.
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thanks guys
it was just a thought I pretty much came to the conclusion that
the finger would be pointed at whoever said it was safe at the time of inspection .but whos to say any of us are immune from the possibility of finger pointing in the event of an appliance going up in smoke which had been repaired by one of us ?
I do test all appliances and record all results its the only way I can sleep at night knowing that each repair is complete
good shout lee8 ill change my ad to include electrical and function safety checksRe: Appliance Fires
I heard recently that a Diplomat Chinese slimline dishwasher I repaired went up in flames 3 months later. It was in general good nick had passed standard earthing and insulation tests with flying colours. Unfortunately, I didn’t get the opportunity to find out what caused it to catch fire.
Standard insulation & earthing tests would only pick up a small fraction of fire hazards. Live to neutral insulation faults, loose terminals, fatigued wiring, faulty relays, dry solder joints, etc, would all be missed by the standard PAT tests, but could all cause a fire. A detailed stripdown and visual inspection might pick up some of these, but would be impractical.
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just sat watching THIS MORNING on ITV, scary stuff, especially Beko appliances, they recon only 10-20 percent of recall customers are contacted due to customers not completing registration details forms sold with the new appliance which for us people leaves 80percent that are still happily working away(for now), don’t you think manufacturers should be sending out independents details of fire risks? especially the particular components that are the culprit, also shockingly and this is what was quoted “1 person dies every week due to un-recalled appliances catching fire” :eeek: to be honest i think they have mis-quoted the fire-brigade that probably announced 1 person every week dies in a house fire due to electrical faults, but it makes good viewing on their part,personally i would prefer to be well aware of recall appliance model numbers that have potential for fire,
regards Simon B (now sat shaking in my boots) 😯
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simonb wrote:don’t you think manufacturers should be sending out independents details of fire risks?
How would that help resolve Beko’s problem?
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Hi martin, probably meant it in more focused towards independents working more safety and informed, and yes it probably wouldn’t help Beko’s own current problems much but at least it would show manufacturers are operating responsibly with a duty of care, i personally think this should go the extra mile instead of customers having to fill in a card and send it off, there name and address should be supplied direct from the retailer at least this way the percentage of customers contacted with re-calls would increase and possibly save lives.
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The manufacturers probably think telling independents of problems like the current ones is worse than not saying anything, you assume that all independents have the basic test and safety equipment, which if you look through this forum is not the case at all, until this profession has some sort of registration system for engineers then we will not be recognised. It doesn’t however excuse them from not informing DASA of the WTA. That says it all about what most manufacturers think of imdependants!
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