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Re: Best of the budgets.
DrDill wrote:I dont sell Bekos, they are crap
I used to be of the same opinion. Indeed, when they first appeared, they were crap. However, in recent times, they have raised their game, and I consider them now to be perfectly valid alternative to your Hotpoint/Indesits/Hoovers etc, with the added bonus of being more fixable due to their reasonably priced spares.
By the way, I don’t sell any machines, just basing my opinions on fixing them.Re: Best of the budgets.
I fix them too, great earners. I wont sell them though as they are crap.
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http://www.kitchenkitsw.comRe: Best of the budgets.
DrDill wrote:And the last post is what angers me most, quite clearly sells what makes the most profit, not what is best for the customer, did you work for currys?
http://www.kitchenkitsw.comI think you misunderstood my quote. I do not intend to rip people off, just following the selling price in the shops and internet. I get Beko at trade price and sell it based on the price what the shops/internet sell then the markup between trade and sell is better than what I get for selling Hoover and Hotpoint as the trade price and sell price there isn’t much of a mark up there. You are looking at a difference of £5 and £50. Take a look at Swift trade prices, can you compete and how much profit can you get out of it? Another supplier who is local to me can beat their prices and I am supporting the local economy. I do not know where they get their machines from but as long I can get it less than Swift and pick it up within an hour or so.
I go along with the guide price plus fitting regardless the cost of the machine and at the end of the day I have to make money in order to make some profit. And no, I do not work for Curry’s and never ever had bought anything from Curry’s.
What’s the difference in selling machines with good mark up against replacing worn carbon brushes that costs you £2 a pair when the mark up is around 600{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} or more? (I can’t work out the percentage, all I am saying if you factor in the call out cost plus part then there’s huge amount of profit in terms of percentage). If you based the appliance trade price against sell price then percentage is much much lower but in terms of monetary value the machine brings the same amount money (with less percentage) against Carbon brushes job and you still have a clear conscience on both jobs. It’s the law of percentages.
At the end of the day, if I am asked which of the cheapest machine is a good buy then I am thinking of in terms of being able to retain the customer base and maintain good reputation if they want to call me out next year or so that is easy to fix then Beko is the one. Hotpoint and Hoover get written off easily after 2 years then you lose your customer base and your reputation reflects on selling inferior machines. Beko machine still comes out cheaper (even with a good markup) than Hotpoint and Hoover and they (Beko) are “better” build. This brings to the point on what Madangler1 was asking and I was just simply responding to his question and hoped that I answered it as a business man to another business man. He can do what he want and still have a clear conscience.
Re: Best of the budgets.
Thanks all for the responses.
Regardless of what you sell no one deserves abuse for it, there is nothing wrong will selling one make because it has a better margin above another,
lets be clear we are all in this industry to make money, regardless of what you sell or repair that’s the end goal, just because you sell an more expensive brand does not make you any better or more qualified than the next guy.I started this thread as Iv noticed there is a number of people on here who seem say if you can’t afford a Bosch, Ise or Miele you should not bother buying one and that’s just insanity, the majority of people can’t afford to spend £600 on a machine, large numbers are bought on credit or via a catalogue and that often limits choice as well.
Rather than the make its self being the problem Iv often found its how its used, Iv seen indesit’s last longer than Boschs. Iv personally got a Kenwood(Haier) dishwasher that done 5 years with out a single problem.
It’s easy to slag off various brands for unreliability but if they are use correctly there is no reason they won’t last.
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DrDill wrote:I dont sell Bekos, they are crap, i merely answered the question.
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http://www.kitchenkitsw.comI’d beg to differ, think Beko are great machines, very seldom do I have to do a bearing job on a Beko, doing one every other day on Zanussi mostly the 1120 & 1140s.
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I dont sell zanussis either
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http://www.kitchenkitsw.comRe: Best of the budgets.
Zanussi are heavy machine, cumbersome and bulky. Wouldn’t even think of selling one let alone the cheap price. Oddly enough Zanussi is the easiest machine to operate, fewer buttons to contend with. Old people like that.
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Heavy may not be a bad thing as recent indesit/hotpoint cabinets are like paper, no chassis in the bottom anymore just the side panels folded into a gutter to give it some strength.
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AMS wrote:I used to be of the same opinion. Indeed, when they first appeared, they were crap. However, in recent times, they have raised their game, and I consider them now to be perfectly valid alternative to your Hotpoint/Indesits/Hoovers etc, with the added bonus of being more fixable due to their reasonably priced spares.
I wouldn’t disagree.
I would point out though that most of the rest of the market hasn’t exactly been maintaining their respective positions on quality let alone upping them.
Perspective. 😉
K.
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While we are on this subject I have a customer who is strapped for cash and although I would normally supply Amica, Swift have none. I was thinking of a White Knight. Does anyone have any experience of these, who makes them,(Chinese perhaps or Vestel) and reliability? I know they aren’t going to be the greatest but in short, are they reasonable?
Rob
Ps. Some time ago did sell some Daewoo but all bar one went wrong and getting paid by Daewoo was not the easiest so I won’t sell them.Re: Best of the budgets.
Amica turn out a decent machine as well, sold a good number and none have come back, better than the GDA stuff (imo) with Beko second if we are talking budget,
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madangler1 wrote:Just been looking through Currys and at the 8kg minimum 1400 models and the 4 under £350 are 3 Indesit/hotpoints and 1 thing call a Sandstorm.
Interestingly even a Haier is more expensive than a Samsung and Bosch.
the sandstorm is a Daewoo machine in disguise
our biggest seller is the Hoover 1400, 5 year parts, 1 year labour, not a bad machine
Argos sell them for £335.74, Boots sell them for £256.00 we do them for £250.00Simon
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I have a real issue with the newer Hotpoint/Indesit washing machines, this stupid blue linear pressure switch i have had 4 now which started off as blocked pumps which were cleared without even moving the machines ended up in new machines due to faulty pcbs. all this resetting carry on should not be nescessary. I would certainly not recommend anyone to buy one of these machines.
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