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Re: bleckmann or thermowatt
Simps…there are plenty of nurses in Asda round here (there’s a megastore not far from the main hospital :eeek: )
I totally dispute the modern day urban myth that homes are too clean. That’s wishful thinking, and make no mistake.
As for the bags…the fully soluble ones are cost prohibitive for me, but the other type worked out to 5p a bag, which is a cost I can well absorb, if it made life easier.
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We only know about the clothes etc and the appliances or, at least, that’s the only ones that we can speak about with any real authority. 😉
The one that winds me up is that a lot of people think that a quick wash is acceptable for virtually anything when, that simply is not true. Many people even base their buying choice for a new washing machine on how quickly that the fast wash is, which is ridiculous.
Quick or fast wash is meant for “lightly soiled items”, it’ll tell you that in virtually every handbook. The definition of a “lightly soiled item” in the industry is, “worn once, not next to skin”.
The reason is that as soon as a garment is worn next to skin you immediately get skin flakes, sweat residues, grease, hairs, general dirt and so on transferring onto the item.
If you don’t wash it correctly a good bit of that will stay on the item. It will build up over time if you do this repeatedly and the item will be ruined.
And, you’re wandering about wearing dirt.
I found it fascinating when we looked into this in more detail and you would be astonished at some of the stuff that is on your clothes. Fat spatters, food residues, various body fluids including urine, faeces, sweat, grease and goodness knows what else. Quite scary really but, because people don’t see it, they think a fast wash is okay or, a rubbish detergent is okay.
What we get is complaints about performance of machines (all brands) and any number of issues but when you start digging into it you’ll often find that it is simply the user not using the machine correctly that’s the problem.
A good many people I’ve come across and, to be fair, we only see the people that have an issue, don’t seem to comprehend that there’s three basic components in all this, the clothing or fabric to be cleaned, the detergent you use and the program selection on the washing machine you do it in. Muck up any one of those before you even start doing anything and you’re not going to get very far.
Meanwhile we have manufacturers marketing people telling the public that their new washer is mega super quick and detergent manufacturers telling people that they can wash at low temperatures and fast. Is it any real wonder that people in the street haven’t got a clue?
But then, most people have been using a washing machine for years and they know it all. :rolls:
K.
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Ken, I could love you. *joke* Seriously though, there is nothing you have just said which I think can be argued with at all.
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……..but in truth we in the trade revel in the publics ignorance as it generates the vast majority avoidable breakdowns, so mustn’t complain. 😉
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Martin wrote:……..but in truth we in the trade revel in the publics ignorance as it generates the vast majority avoidable breakdowns, so mustn’t complain. 😉
This is of course the other side of it 😀 If it were not for poor housekeeping, I’d be out of a job too :boops:
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Martin wrote:I don’t hold with the ‘suds and air pockets’ theory. I appreciate these machines only wash with just a few litres of water but all the while that element remains well immersed in the stuff. Were that theory to have any credence at all then the internal fuses would blow and we’ve pretty well established that that is not the case here.
Sorry just reading through and see I didn’t really explain this one properly.
It’s not that elements are out of the water for any considerable time and certainly not enough to blow the internal protection fuse,more that as the water and soap suds gets sloshed about as the drun changes rotation the element isnt always totally immersed in water so heat isnt dissapated,surface temp of element goes up and then its back in water and rapidly cooled again which is not what they were designed for and eventually stresses the outer casing of the element.
I’m going back a while and maybe current design can cope with this.
We were finding on 3 phase commercial machines where there were 3 elements one in the normal 6 o clock position and one each side of it as approx 27minutes past and 27 minutes to postion when viewing the rear of the drum as a clock face.
It was always the outer elements which failed more often and Ipso among others sent out info to make engineers aware of the powder/over sudsing selection importance.
Possibly not of relevance in this case though.
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