Bosch Excell SGS5362GB/01 dishwasher heating / cycle fault

[MR GUS]

Hi all.
1st time poster,but used the forum to seek out & destroy basic faults with our oven (for which i’m eternally grateful).

Our Bosch SGS5362GB/01 standard size dishwasher running for 10+ years has developed a fault…

Either the heating element has gone or is suffering as a by-product of the main?, resulting in a more or less eternal wash cycle (no water being heated) ..however after a few power up power downs (it tends to pop the timer to 19mins left on the cycle, it will finish & subsequently drain.

Solutions / prognosis greatly received as to likelihood of a cost effective repair (or otherwise)
If not cost effective either as a pro or diy repair then advice as to a sturdy energy efficient replacement please, I’m aware that bosch are not as good as once deemed to be …like so many sadly 🙁

D’ya reckon this is terminal or not?
On a side note I notice the fine mesh waste trap has dieed, will basic hot glue be ok to pin the plastic back to te metal or is a replacement in the offing for that also.

cheers, & thanks

Gus

[Martin]

Re: Bosch Excell SGS5362GB/01 dishwasher heating / cycle fa

Heater needs replacing……..bin it! 😥

[MR GUS]

Re: Bosch Excell SGS5362GB/01 dishwasher heating / cycle fa

That’s not good to hear, i’ve just spent 5 minutes fixing up the fine mesh trap to flush & clean the machine through

I’m wondering how & why this affects the “eternal cycle” pending reset via clicking to another programme & links into the heater possibly being kaput!? (Thankyou for the advice Martin).

I’m guessing a heater unit is horrifically priced / wedged into the darkest recesses of the machine therefore not cost effective for joe-bloggs & his capable wife to tackle?

& whats doing the rounds as a sturdy durable machine for daily use these days?

[Martin]

Re: Bosch Excell SGS5362GB/01 dishwasher heating / cycle fa

MR GUS wrote:I’m wondering how & why this affects the “eternal cycle” pending reset via clicking to another programme & links into the heater possibly being kaput!?

I simply added 2 and 2 together from what you told us and came to that conclusion. 😉

MR GUS wrote:I’m guessing a heater unit is horrifically priced / wedged into the darkest recesses of the machine therefore not cost effective for joe-bloggs & his capable wife to tackle?

Darkest recesses is correct, costly replacement true enough but joe-blogs and wife could, with skill and know how could succeed.

MR GUS wrote:& whats doing the rounds as a sturdy durable machine for daily use these days?

Pot luck these days, Bosch were good, still hold good these days apparently, but speaking as an engineer with over 35 years Bosch trained experience they are pretty rubbish these days overall. Something to do with striving to be the greenest of machines has brought their standards of reliability down. Now they produce super green 4 star widgets that won’t ever reach their 10th birthday. Not good for the trade after all is it? 😈

[MR GUS]

Re: Bosch Excell SGS5362GB/01 dishwasher heating / cycle fa

Hmm, thanks, as a Greenie meself I thought (& bought) a machine that wouldn’t need skipping, or burying (we have a ruddy big fridge mountain tip near us, & if that isn’t a lesson in trying to keep things running I don’t know what is.

Having looked on another thread , same sort of diagnosis for a bosch, complete with a couple of pictures, i’s something i’d prefer to salvage rather than skip if able to get it on it’s back & past the sharp edges (presumably punched metal casings.. or worse than that)?

what sort of Losses to quality have come about in search of “greenwash crudentials”, cos longevity in a product is preferable to the whole process of gleaning material from the ground, smelting, refining shipping, production etc …it was a pretty good unit in it’s time (12 litres of water as I recall) & fairly low power consumption per cycle, as well as having hot & cold water hoses as I recall, ..nice for when you want to make use of your own solar heated water!

Side note: The lack of hot fill on many modern washing machines makes it darn difficult for anyone with solar water “sitting there in the H/W tank” which is why we ended up getting an LG a few years back.

Back to the dishwasher, wife (especially if it saves money we haven’t got) ..is prepared to hand-fill for a while, the fate of it being a possible cheese & meat smoker conversion if it is beyond salvation.

One thought, what’s the likelihood (I did read up on yet another thread) that the tablets we’ve relied on (as well as filling with salt & rinse aid) are not actually much good, we DID run out of salt a while ago & have been relying on the tablet content to take up the slack! …, would it help therefore (to try & pinpoint alternative possibities) to fill it & slam out a few empty cycles to purge any slime gathered in pipes which may have affected sensors? …& would those pipes tend to be visibly dirty if I removed the front fascia?

..hope to sort this out rather than replace, especially if it’s a sturdier machine than produced nowadays, after all 12 litres water & the energy used aren’t so far off the mark of the curent “norm” ared they? …& Martin has made me wary of the new 6 litre flushback Bosch, ..as has the price, especially if it throws the proverbial towel in after a few years!

So If I do a resistance check on the water unit? (please correct me as needed) ..then it should be displaying 25-30 as I understand?

lastly, (yeah, sorry) 😳 if it’s a pcb module dry joint pr an aged cap go (thinking it’s used daily, so many cycles under it’s belt) would that be a “in & out” simple replacement.

I must admit, the 6 litre new machine is appealing (we are also on a water meter) but if it’s a poor performer overall then what should I look for beyond marketing & performance speil these days?

Your time is greatly appreciated, as a bloke that is mourning the loss of his 12 year old trainers currently (burn out) …this is hitting me (a Scottish Jew) ..if we are to stereotype 😉 very hard indeed!

[Martin]

Re: Bosch Excell SGS5362GB/01 dishwasher heating / cycle fa

MR GUS wrote:So If I do a resistance check on the water unit? (please correct me as needed) ..then it should be displaying 25-30 as I understand?

Yeah that would be about right. Though I do suspect we’re likely as not talking duff heater here (especially compounded by your later confession over not using salt of late) and a reading closer to zero might be more the truth.

MR GUS wrote:lastly, (yeah, sorry) 😳 if it’s a pcb module dry joint pr an aged cap go (thinking it’s used daily, so many cycles under it’s belt) would that be a “in & out” simple replacement.

A dry joint an easy fix with a soldering iron and it’s worth looking at the PCB in case that’s all it is.

[MR GUS]

Re: Bosch Excell SGS5362GB/01 dishwasher heating / cycle fa

Thanks again Martin, yup, I remembered the omission re salt, taking the ability of a recommended dishwasher tablet also recommnded by the sticker in our Bosch at face value …silly me! ..it’s the 1st time it’s really ever run out for any length of time, so here’s hoping for simple fix.

question therefore is, why do the tablet manufacturers get away with the tablet being deemed a complete solution per wash (ie dosing), surely this is one of those big misnoemeurs & myths pertaining to the industry?

Whilst I do top up fluid every wash or 2 (habit) you ram the salt holder full & let it get on with it, I never realized how essential it was to continued operation til I browsed here, ..& probably too late.

So how do the tablet brands get away with it from a legal standpoint?

Sorry, I do ask questions because I want to understand & NOT make errors such as this, must take out a lot of machines if they are ever checked over…which I doubt, operator error based on advertising claims (Finish do buy a lot of advertising space) *cough*

[Martin]

Re: Bosch Excell SGS5362GB/01 dishwasher heating / cycle fa

MR GUS wrote:So how do the tablet brands get away with it from a legal standpoint?

They are doing no wrong other than to state that their product has “salt action”. Usually the small print on the back of the packet states “refer to manufacturers instructions” and often as not the user never does. Thus makes the assumption that because there’s salt in the detergent (wrong) that’s the perfect excuse not to put any in the salt reservoir! The same is true of not putting rinse aid into the conveniently place rinse aid dispenser. The tablet claims to have “rinse aid action” so the user never bothers to buy rinse aid also!

The onus therefore falls directly on the consumer much like in the most graphic of examples, cigarettes. On the pack in big letters is states “SMOKING KILLS” just in case the short sighted reader may overlook the dire warning. But that fails to stop them consuming the entire packet and coming back for more as if to prove the statement incorrect.

But anyway we are straying way off topic with this. I wish you every success with your dishwasher problem. Lay off the fags and don’t forget to buy Salt. 😉

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