Bosch Exxcel SGS45E02GB/45 capacitor blown, now prog stuck

[damienerap]

Hi hopefully someone can help. My Bosch Exxcel SGS45E02GB/45 dishwasher is coming up to 4 years old. Recently I heard a loud bang and then the smell of burning, following this the dishwasher remained powered up but when I switched of the mains isolation switch for the socket another bang let out tripping the mains fuse.
I’ve read in a number of places that this is likely to be a mains suppressor/capacitor and indeed from the rear of the machine there is soot around the entrance where the main lead goes into the machine.
However, the dishwasher ran without problems for the next 2 or 3 weeks but has now suddenly decided not to progress through a program. Whichever program is selected, the machine will not move on a single minute and essentially does nothing.
This problem seems very similar to a module failure we had two years ago so my question is this…
Does it sound like the module has gone as well as a potential capacitor burn out?
The capacitor is only about £15 and would be a nice cheap fix but I’m loathed to spend any money if it turns out I need more parts particularly a module. For info, I’ve lost confidence in this machine as this is the second breakdown in 2 years so I would rather buy a new machine (and move away from the Bosch brand) than fork out another £100 plus.
Any help or thoughts appreciated.
Darren

ps, took all the torx screws out of the door panel and spent the next 2 hours trying to get the bloody door back onto those hinges – aaarrgh!

[Penguin45]

Re: Bosch Exxcel SGS45E02GB/45 capacitor blown, now prog stu

I would imagine that the repeated attempts to run the machine with the damaged suppressor will have damaged the pcb.

Penguin45.

[damienerap]

Re: Bosch Exxcel SGS45E02GB/45 capacitor blown, now prog stu

Thanks for the response, that is what I fear. I didn’t realise that the “potential” suppressor damage was there at first and suspected a dodgy wall socket and so when plugged into another socket all seemed well when the dishwasher worked.
For the layman is the pcb something I could get an engineer to fix (if this is what it is) or would it have to be replaced as a new part?
I’m assuming the pcb is part of the module?
I know it’s all speculation as it really needs an engineer to look but I’m just trying to decide whether to call out, buy a part myself or get a new machine.
Many thanks again.
Darren

[Penguin45]

Re: Bosch Exxcel SGS45E02GB/45 capacitor blown, now prog stu

PCB=module=computer board………

Unless you can spot any obvious damage (ie, blown tracks) on the pcb, damage will almost certainly be corruption of the processor. This means that the board must be a replaced as an assembly. BSH offer no components other than the complete board.

Cost is really the issue. Suppressor is cheap enough, but the board will be over £100 and usually needs configuring. An instruction sheet is normally enclosed but isn’t particularly intuitive to follow!

A repairer will charge for at least a full hours work. Rates vary widely around the country, so if you choose top go that route ask when you mae the call.

Put the thing into the context of a comparable replacement – will you save a bit of cash? It’s an important consideration in these rather straitened times.

Penguin45.

[damienerap]

Re: Bosch Exxcel SGS45E02GB/45 capacitor blown, now prog stu

Many thanks again for your advice, it’s helped me make a decision.
I’ve kind of lost faith in the reliability of white goods as I recently had an expensive Bosch Logixx tumble dryer brekdown due to a circuit board break – this was within 5 years. It seems that reliability is more down to pot luck than brand name or price paid.
So I’m going to buy a new machine and shop on the basis of length of warranty – there are a number of models from Seimens and Miele (I’m sure there are others) with a full parts and labour 5 year warranty included.
Roll on the time when environmental laws get so tough that manufacturers build things to last 20 years again!
Anyway, once again thanks for the words of advice.
Darren

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