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April 16, 2006 at 3:43 pm #17175
kevinrt
ParticipantOur Bosch Maxx IT WFR 2860 (5 years old, I think) has begun to extend its wash cycle times. A 40 degree cottons or linens wash takes can take 2-3 hours; much longer than when new. Apart from this everything else seems to work OK, although we probably only use this one programme, apart from a very hot cycle once a month to rinse the machine out.
Any ideas on how to return it to quicker wash times.April 16, 2006 at 4:18 pm #173214gegsy
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Hi
Just humour me on this one.
Just check if your waste pipe from appliance has gone too far down the physical plumbing rigid pipe, ie more than a foot down it. If so you maybe experiencing syphoning which would extend wash cycle on ALL settings though.
You can also check the heater (access from front) approx 30 ohms, and check your filter for any blockages.
Un plug appliance before attempting any repair please :plug:Greg
April 16, 2006 at 6:36 pm #173215Martin
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kevinrt wrote:apart from a very hot cycle once a month to rinse the machine out
Your machine has got several ‘sensors’ that regulate water inlet flow, temperature, water level and even a dirt sensor to check to see how many rinses it needs to perform during the cycle. I suspect that that dirt (terbidary) sensor in particular needs a clean out β
To do that I suggest you carry out a monthly ‘service wash’. That’s a 90 degree cottons wash with NO washload but the usual doseage of detergent. A few of those washes will help to decrease those errant wash times.
Do please use a good quality detergent that contains a bleaching agent for this process (i.e Ariel Tablets) π ( Not the supermarket own brand rubbish π )
April 16, 2006 at 6:40 pm #173216kevinrt
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gegsy, thanks for your reply
no obvious problem with the waste-pipe (its plumbed into the drain pipe under the kitchen sink (no blockage there either), and this setup is not new, it was the same when the cycle times were shorter than now.
Filter appears clear.
I don’t have the knowledge/skills to check the heater (although I do own a voltmeter with an ohms scale on it, used in the past for motorcycle electrics).
Martin, thanks, I will try your strategy as well. Have to admit to using a major supermarket’s own brand wash liquid, is it that different from Ariel, Bold etc?
April 16, 2006 at 7:04 pm #173217superfix
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If the machine completes it’s cycle, then to be honest I doubt there is anything wrong with it.
This m/c is very sophisticated electronically, and any faults would abort the cycle altogether and show a fault code.
It’s not possible that somebody has altered the the settings for the wash is it?.
April 16, 2006 at 7:17 pm #173218BSH-MAN
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Now think very carefully, is the βecoβ option button selected instead of the βquickβ button?
πApril 16, 2006 at 7:45 pm #173219kevinrt
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Boro,
we’ve pretty muh only used the one setting since we got the machine, but its only in the last few months that the cycle times have become prolonged.I’m not particularly bothered by it, but it can be a bit frustrating when you programme a finish time and its still going 2 hours later.
BSH-MAN,
doesn’t appear to have a quick or eco setting that can be selected by the user. I think the turbidity feature was supposed to be economical, by shortening a wash if the water was running clear, but that’s automatic and can’t be switched on or off.
April 16, 2006 at 8:01 pm #173220gegsy
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Ive had some where heater has gone and no fault has been registered.]Worth a check. NTC still could be faulty.
Greg
April 16, 2006 at 8:07 pm #173221Turbo
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Sounds like the heater to me. Put it on a 90 degree wash then see if it is getting hot after about half an hour.
April 16, 2006 at 8:17 pm #173222kevinrt
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What’s NTC?
April 16, 2006 at 8:19 pm #173223gegsy
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NTC is a sensor which determines the temperature of the water.
Greg
April 17, 2006 at 7:22 am #173224Martin
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kevinrt wrote:apart from a very hot cycle once a month to rinse the machine out.
It’s interesting that some suspect the heater at fault? When all along Kevin has stated he does a monthly hot wash as well as the machine always (eventually) completes the cycle? If the heater were at fault in this instant, the machine would never complete the cycle surely?
kevinrt wrote:Have to admit to using a major supermarket’s own brand wash liquid,
Your machine is simply silted up with that lousy liquid. Don’t start taking it apart trying to find the heater and NTC, instead, do as I advised earlier my friend π
April 17, 2006 at 8:01 am #173225gegsy
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Good point Martin, however he may put on boil wash but never check door glass heat. Like I said before they will end eventually even with heater failure.2-3 hours for boil wash is normal so would not suspect anything afoot.
Heater elimination then we can move on.Greg
April 17, 2006 at 10:10 am #173226kevinrt
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gegsy, you are correct, I never usually check the temperature of the glass door. I have just done so in the middle of a 90 degree wash (when it says ‘wash’ in the display) and the glass is cold. I’ve aslo paused the wash and checked the water inside, this is also cold. I assume there may be times during this cycle when cold water is used, but maybe not during ‘wash’.
Does the heater failure account for the prolonged wash times (i.e the wash takes longer because clothes don’t clean as well in cold water)?
April 17, 2006 at 11:33 am #173227gegsy
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No heat would prolong wash. Most machines would stay forever until the temp is reached, these appear to wash for 2-3 hours and end, showing no fault condition.
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