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I am sure everyone is aware the cost of detergents these days but am I really getting a better detergent if I buy something like Persil? Surely they cannot be that much different as they must contain roughly all the same type of ingredients. If there are any appliance repair people on here can you actually tell what type of detergent someone has been using in their washing machine? Any brands you would advise avoiding? Many Thanks.
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There are huge differences between different detergents, largely explain here:
http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/clea … gents.html
K.
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hooverelectron wrote:Ifthere are any appliance repair people on here can you actually tell what type of detergent someone has been using in their washing machine?
We repair guys fix machines that go wrong and advise on detergent related issues but we fall well short of being forensic scientists to analysing what detergent someone has used in their machine. We find it easier to ask the user in the hope of an honest answer.
I’m curious you ask the question, could you elaborate your reasons for asking?
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That’s not totally true Martin, you can often tell liquid detergent use especially when coupled with constant low temp washing. 😉
The smell and often mould is a bit of a giveaway.
K.
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kwatt wrote:The smell and often mould is a bit of a giveaway.
The same effect will result in equal measure with non bio powder. As well you know that any surfactant, be it in liquid or powder form, will not fully disperse when subjected to this level of misuse. Leading to the exact same conclusions.
I doubt that if you were to look at the jelly-like deposits that stick to the drum spigot you could differentiate between it being a powder or a liquid?
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Don’t you mean a colour detergent?
Non bio with bleach is just as effective in that regard as bio with bleach.
Surfactant has nothing much to do with it, it’s just a component of the detergent.
K.
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kwatt wrote:Don’t you mean a colour detergent?
Err? I was more referring to a surfactant and it’s dispersal, or the lack of it, and therefore creating the build up of mould etc etc..
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kwatt wrote:Don’t you mean a colour detergent?
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Thanks for the replies regarding branded vs non branded detergents.
Perhaps someone could explain though why there is always foam in the rinse cycles? Shouldn’t they be crystal clear? There is no zeolites in liquids so I know that can’t be the culprit.
My machine seems to drain the water ok but there is always foam left inside the bottom of the black sump hose and just foams up on the rinse cycles. Never had this problem before so unless the pump is not very powerful have no idea why the foam wont clear.
I have a video I can send and perhaps someone could tell me if there is a fault?
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hooverelectron wrote:Perhaps someone could explain though why there is always foam in the rinse cycles? Shouldn’t they be crystal clear?
I don’t understand what you mean? A series of rinse cycles are essential in removing the dirty soapy foam and each rinse cycle should see the foam reduce progressively in the run up to final spin. If you still have foam at that point then the conclusion is obvious, you have overdosed on detergent in the first place!
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I have not overdosed on detergent! I just followed the recommended amount.
I put 45 ml in as recommended by the detergent I used which was Astonish 2 in 1 liquid.
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In that can you are overdosing by at least 15ml. For soft water areas even less than that. No wonder you got foam!
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Martin,
Are the recommended amounts of detergent too much just so you use more so you have to buy more detergent sooner?
The Astonish liquid is quite heavily concentrated. Claims to do 28 washes but I could probably get more like 50 washes out of it!
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My colleague kwatt gave you a link that explains a lot of what you need to know about detergents in general. Especially the difference between powders and liquids. The article is heavily swayed towards a popular brand and a little dated in that it doesn’t include the influx of good quality supermarket own brand products available these days.
One fact stands out in that powder based detergents are far superior to liquids and gels. Astonish is not a brand I have come across nor would purchase to even try simply because of that fact.
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