Can I plug this Single electric oven in?

[diy_johnny]

Re: Can I plug this Single electric oven in?

thanks Martin,

It is curious why they say “total connected load = 2.9kw” and then refer to 16amp or why the previous Neff came with a plug and yet is similar power. I can buy a pluggable 3KW air heater that size

Anyway, I am future proofing the place so running dedicated cooker supply in

[Martin]

Re: Can I plug this Single electric oven in?

diy_johnny wrote:Anyway, I am future proofing the place so running dedicated cooker supply in

Good man! :tup:

[lee8]

Re: Can I plug this Single electric oven in?

Also if you do any work on your appliances always remove the plug from the wall, single poles and kitchens sometimes have a shocking suprise in store.

[diy_johnny]

Re: Can I plug this Single electric oven in?

Also if you do any work on your appliances always remove the plug from the wall, single poles and kitchens sometimes have a shocking surprise in store.

Yes I would never start taking covers off electrical appliances which they are still plugged, although switched off. Takes all of about 1 sec to unplug.

Just going with the 16A mcb, ccu, 6mm cable and DP 20a switch.

Its all academic now but I do fail to see the genuine danger of 2.9kW on a plug on a 2.5mm ring as i have it. I have spoken to several electricians now and all said it wouldn’t bother them in the slightest (from a safety point of view) plugging that oven in, but I invalidate any warrantee and yes the MI should be followed for adherence to standards.

I think the problem often comes from the scaremongering regarding electrical circuits and appliances and the MI instructions a bit overkill at times. According to my toaster MI on the health and safety section I should clean it weekly, my LG TV says I should unplug if going away for any period of time. Even the RCBO for the wired smoke alarm states i should test weekly! I’d hazard a guess that there is practically no-one in Britain that ever tests a RCBO on a weekly basis!

I also read today from another electrician about the the grave danger of using electrical boxes that are non-accessible. I am aware of the rules and personally I always crimp and double insulate but lets be honest if the danger was that grave, half the houses in Britain would be fire. Its good to educated but at the same time be realistic otherwise people dismiss the advice completely.

[lee8]

Re: Can I plug this Single electric oven in?

I kinda agree, but just like parachuting by throwing our your chute and chasing it, one incident has potentially devastating consequences, it is why most take the chute with them. Neff appliances are sold in huge numbers, the 1 in thousand chances dramatically change & it only takes one dead family and a preventable issue on a cooker.

Your lack and others knowledge does not provide enough evidence to suggest the instructions are incorrect, over kill etc. The UK has around 12,500 electrical appliance fires a year, many are attributed to incorrect use, installation etc etc.

If you use a plug on an appliance and use the socket circuit it’s a single pole switch, many kitchens suffer from reverse polarity, meaning only the live circuit is switched, the fuse then is on the return and nolonger protects the appliance or its users.

When you hard wire to the cooker circuit it’s protected by the 2 pole switch, meaning both live & neutral is switched off.

There are other reasons, to do with how protective devices operate etc etc. People survive all kinds of incidents, people have walked away from injuries that others have not, but it does not prove the actions are safe or not, it has more to do with luck.

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