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July 14, 2007 at 3:46 pm #28996
lunny68
ParticipantI have the above Candy Oven, which has been fitted for about 4 months.
A couple of questions, firstly when I first turn the oven on, opening the door fully, letting the gas ignite and turning the temp up to full, closing the door. After a few minutes, the oven switches itself off. I then have to leave the oven for a few more minutes, repeat the process and then its fine.
Secondly, is it other people’s experience that unless you let the oven warm up for a minimum of 15 mins then it seems to take an age for food to cook?
Finally (!), my oven is built in and the units on either side seem to get very warm, a lot warmer than my old oven, when the Candy is cooking.
Thanks for your time,
Dave
July 14, 2007 at 4:10 pm #221032admin
KeymasterRe: Candy OVG505
Hi Dave
This a common occurence and normal for this model going out after approx 1 min then fine if relighted.
Yes this oven as well as any other needs to be pre heated for approx 20 mins on full temprature then turn it down to the required temprature.
The oven should be fitted with a piece of L shaped metal on each side which is a heat deflector,If you undo the four screws on the oven then pull slightly forward if they are fitted you will see them loose on the sides of the oven,If they arent there get your kitchen fitter back to obtain them and fit them else the cabinets or doors WILL be heat damaged.
Bryan
July 15, 2007 at 9:19 pm #221033lunny68
ParticipantRe: Candy OVG505
Bryan,
thanks for your reply.
I will check out the heat deflectors,
Dave
July 15, 2007 at 10:12 pm #221034wsts
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r600a wrote:
Yes this oven as well as any other needs to be pre heated for approx 20 mins on full temprature then turn it down to the required temprature.Ovens dont need to be pre-heated on full for 20 mins, as for a start this would mean automatic cooking would be a waste of time, simply turning the thermostat to the highest gas mark then back to the mark you require will be enough to put the thermostat in the approximate calibrated position.
July 15, 2007 at 11:14 pm #221035kwatt
KeymasterRe: Candy OVG505
wsts wrote:Ovens dont need to be pre-heated on full for 20 mins, as for a start this would mean automatic cooking would be a waste of time, simply turning the thermostat to the highest gas mark then back to the mark you require will be enough to put the thermostat in the approximate calibrated position.
Fan ovens, sometimes no. Non fan ovens, always. In gas ovens you always need to pre-heat and most of the cheap ones are utter, utter rubbish.
It depends what you’re cooking in and what you’re cooking.
Whilst I may not be the greatest cook in the world I use and have used many ovens extensively and no two are the same. It is also important to remember that, when cooking with a gas oven especially, the times and temperatures given in recipes is as a guide, not something that came down from from the mountain chiselled in stone.
When you use the timer to cook with you have to take account of the heat up time and also the cool down if appropriate or you’ll end up over cooking things.
HTH
K.
July 16, 2007 at 1:11 am #221036wsts
ParticipantSorry but as a cooker specialist who has done literally hundreds of black ball tests and calibrated just as many gas thermostats its just not true, the oven will hit the temp target whether its pre heated at full or not, the reason for turning past the desired setting and back again is so that the stat “lands” in the correct position , simply turning a stat to the desired position rather than past it and back again can throw the stat out as much as 20 C (bearing in mind that stats are already +/- 15 to 20 c dependant upon manufacturer),if they had to be pre-heated to cook at the req. temp what would be the point of having cookers with automatic timers ? there wouldnt be any.
July 16, 2007 at 1:19 am #221037wsts
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kwatt wrote:
wsts wrote:
Ovens dont need to be pre-heated on full for 20 mins, as for a start this would mean automatic cooking would be a waste of time, simply turning the thermostat to the highest gas mark then back to the mark you require will be enough to put the thermostat in the approximate calibrated position.Fan ovens, sometimes no. Non fan ovens, always. In gas ovens you always need to pre-heat and most of the cheap ones are utter, utter rubbish.
I think you misread what I was saying, it was stated that gas ovens always had to be pre-heated on FULL for 20 mins, this is infact untrue as a gas oven will usually settle at the required cooking temperature in between 15 to 25 minutes there is no need to set the oven at full rate at all.
July 16, 2007 at 3:16 am #221038admin
KeymasterRe: Candy OVG505
Hi WSTS
Sorry but the thermostats work on air temprature within a metal box,The air temprature can be reached fairly quickly due to the oven flame being on full when the temprature is selected then once the air temprature is reached the thermostat goes into the letby stage.Once you open the door the temprature will rise very quickly and allow the thermostat to allow full gas flow.
If you want the best results from cooking you pre heat so that the whole oven including the metal box has reached the temprature not just the air.
If you allow the thermostat to Not pre heati then this is the cause of food burning on the bottom with the base type burner (continental),And the back of food burning when you have the OVG505 type of burner at the rear.
Bryan
July 16, 2007 at 6:45 am #221039kwatt
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I think there’s a bit of misunderstanding here. 😕
You shouldn’t have to whack it up to full then come back to the temp required, no. The temperature should be attained and then regulated.
There should be no need to do what the OP is having to do so there is a fault there.
That said the OVG505 isn’t exactly the best oven in the world. Is that not the one we had to cut the base of the unit away to stop it from overheating at one point?
Dave, I’d have to check but Candy did a mod on a lot of these ovens where the base of the oven housing had to be cut away to allow cooling or the ovens did overheat and did all sorts of whacky things, which may well be the problem.
HTH
K.
July 16, 2007 at 8:16 am #221040wsts
ParticipantRe: Candy OVG505
r600a wrote:Hi WSTS
Sorry but the thermostats work on air temprature within a metal box,The air temprature can be reached fairly quickly due to the oven flame being on full when the temprature is selected then once the air temprature is reached the thermostat goes into the letby stage.Once you open the door the temprature will rise very quickly and allow the thermostat to allow full gas flow.
If you want the best results from cooking you pre heat so that the whole oven including the metal box has reached the temprature not just the air.
If you allow the thermostat to Not pre heati then this is the cause of food burning on the bottom with the base type burner (continental),And the back of food burning when you have the OVG505 type of burner at the rear.
BryanAt no point have I said an oven doesnt need a pre-heat, what you dont have to do is put your oven on FULL to acheive this, I know pretty well how a gas oven works as more than 1 major manufacturer uses me for escalated calls, you will note in my last post that I put that an oven will settle after 15-25 mins that was taking into accout heat loss and absorbtion from around the oven casing on initial heat up, eg: all these things have to be taken into account on re-calibrating a gas thermostat which could not be done properly if done within first ten to 15 mins of an oven being turned on.
July 16, 2007 at 8:18 am #221041wsts
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kwatt wrote:
You shouldn’t have to whack it up to full then come back to the temp required, no. The temperature should be attained and then regulated..Thats what I am saying yes.
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