Candy W/Drier CDB 126-80 PCB fault?

[myfil]

I went to a Candy W/Drier Model CDB 126-80 (S/N 31800064) with following fault:

Intermittently it would start to fill for about a second, then abort, with the (top row) “start” LED plus the (bottom row) second button (time delay) flashing alternately – just these two LEDs.

I ran the test pgm (as for Hoover Nextra in W’goods book, p 44) and got eleven flashes (E11) – tested it several times

Checked motor & brushes, pumpout, fill, spin, and dryer NTC (50K) and dryer functions, etc., all OK.

Took out PCB and cleaned all contacts, checked loom.

Replaced it. Now every pgm aborts after one second with the above error code, including pumpout, spin, and dry pgms.

Does this “code” mean anything and should I pay out for a new module (or send it to EMW)??

All help as usual very much appreciated.

Regards.

(PS: Of course, the machine is integrated, and in a tiny laundry room with not enough room to swing a cat…..)

[Martin]

Re: Candy W/Drier CDB 126-80 PCB fault?

There are reported probs with Hoover/Candy washer-dryers causing intermittent E11 errors. The fault is caused by the dryer NTC connections going open circuit/bad contact. There is a mod involving new type NTC (41032956) and a new wiring loom (41032989) that connects the NTC to the Coreboard.

Check your email as I’ll send you further info on the subjext ASAP…..:D

[myfil]

Re: Candy W/Drier CDB 126-80 PCB fault?

Thanks Martin.

But would that cause the machine to refuse to run ANY program for more than 1 second, and abort with the LEDs flashing as above?

[helo_75]

yes, even the indesit stuff does that…. its because it cant monitor whether the heaters on or not, regardless of program set, so as a safety precaution, it aborts

[myfil]

Re: Candy W/Drier CDB 126-80 PCB fault?

Makes sense

I’ll get the mod parts (for the dryer NTC) and report back!

[myfil]

Re: Candy W/Drier CDB 126-80 PCB fault?

Went round to check out dryer NTC continuity, and there is no problem with it: – at the NTC and at the end of the loom at the PCB I get a clear 70 Kohm (approx) no problem . I even double checked with another NTC.

(the room was unheated, but still well above the 2 degrees causing the “other” fault described in the service sheet from Gias)

So am I correct in assuming it is the PCB needs repair/replace?

[Martin]

Re: Candy W/Drier CDB 126-80 PCB fault?

myfil wrote:So am I correct in assuming it is the PCB needs repair/replace?

I doubt it, reason being that when a PCB fails it doesn’t give any error codes, it’s gone AWOL so it can’t! When a PCB performs as it should then error codes are there to tell you something is causing it problems. Personally I’d at least re-Amp tag those dryer NTC connections prior to ordering the modification. After all Gias have acknowledged there’s a known problem there and one bit of info I then passed on to you. So I’d advise going along with it, besides it’s a bl**dy sight cheaper than sticking in a new PCB and finding the problem hasn’t gone away! 8)

[myfil]

Re: Candy W/Drier CDB 126-80 PCB fault?

The story continues….

I sent the PCB to EMW for repair (because they test it first and if no fault found then all I have spent is the postage). It came back today with a note saying “cannot repair as processor is blown and will not accept commands”

I called Connect for a new PCB and got a very nice price but 10 to 14 days delivery. So I called GIAS (more expensive, even with my discount) and was told “we are out of stock of this item and cannot predict when it will be in stock again as we are having problems…..”

So I called the property owner and they are getting a new machine (NOT a Candy!)

I found a service leaflet from GIAS dated 9/7/05 (N. 807 LB) that states that the code “(top row) “start” LED plus the (bottom row) second button (time delay) flashing alternately – just these two LEDs” shows when “serious trouble is encountered”, which is what I was getting.

I guess a blown processor on the PCB counts as “Serious trouble”!

PS: I also bought in the new Dryer NTC and wiring loom, as per Fault Code Eleven, and the GIAS leaflet on this. The “loom” is two wires with a plug for the NTC at one end, and two amp tag connectors at the other. Can someone tell me where these are supposed to plug into the PCB (which has edge connectors)???

[loopey]

Re: Candy W/Drier CDB 126-80 PCB fault?

ok guys you can shout me down for this one 🙁

the ntc can go low insulation trust me on this ive had 3 of them do it giving a
fault code , yes they are nylon or plastic , yes megger it , . ive seen it with my own 2 eyes ..

hth helps phil

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