Corgi Fiasco Continues

[Kirk]

I have been told that Stoves way of getting round the new regs is not simple,they have to employ w/m engineers then send them out with a corgi engineer for 80 days.
The new engineer is going to work on dishwashers 3 days a week and 2
with the corgi one.Life is simple

[kwatt]

Interesting way around it if you can afford to do it, most of us cannot. So I have to ask, are CORGI merely supporting the big corporate players and ignoring the small traders on the ground?

Thus far all they seem to do is kick us in the teeth and even when we challenged them they had little to say. Oh how I wish for an open debate with CORGI, I’d have such fun. 😈

K.

[Martin]

Re: Corgi Fiasco Continues

Kirk wrote:I have been told that Stoves way of getting round the new regs is not simple,they have to employ w/m engineers then send them out with a corgi engineer for 80 days.

Kirk,

Run that one by me one more time to explain please? So many cynics about Corgi these days(including myself) I need to gain some kind of perspective here and how it affects our trade? Collectively we at UKW are listening!

Martin

[kwatt]

Basically, if you get one untrained body with no gas experience then CORGI want them trained for 14 weeks or some such nonsense and then stuck through the courses just as an experienced person would be. So, unless you can prove experience in gas product then you can’t get certified but the “man & van” would have to attend a 14 week course to be able to apply for the CCN1 etc.

So, fine if you can afford to carry the cost of training but i’m willing to bet most of cannot.

K.

[Lawrence]

kwatt wrote:
So, fine if you can afford to carry the cost of training but i’m willing to bet most of cannot.K.

Not with the rates some people pay 😯
Some day soon the manufacturers are going to get involved in this,Because soon there are going to be no CORGI trained guys left and equally none that can be trained

Lawrence

[kwatt]

Indeed Lawrence, very true.

I have already had rumours reaching me of callouts in excess of £80 for the first hour only on LPG products, we all know why and I’m not going over it all again here at all. This is a reality check before the same thing happens with natural gas.

These callouts were to domestic appliances, in domestic premises, under warranty! Now hands up all the manufacturers knocking hobs out for £100 or less that can afford those labour fees.

Oh and that was just the first hour’s labour, not the return visit.

This is set to be a crisis in the next few years if nothing is done, not for us really but for the manufacturers as we’ll simply drop gas products altogether wherever possible. Already my company can no longer call to LPG product or gas tumble dryers, it’s just not economically viable to cater for them, how long will it be before NG goes the same way?

K.

[eastlmark]

Re: Corgi Fiasco Continues

The way this has been explained to me is as follows:
A non time served engineer new to gas work needs to show a “portfolio of experience” which should even contain photos of your work done under the supervision of a corgi registered engineer. (exactly what you photo, I dont know, a bit of pipe, my hands on a valve? surely they could be easily “posed” and dont mean a thing. What it does mean is that you need another corgi engineer to go around with, fine if you already employ one not so easy if you dont. The only way I can see to do it is to befriend a local corgi reg’d company and offer your services, free of course, to go around as a “mate” getting some hands on boiler repairs or whatever while having your photo taken doing it. I dont think there is a set length of experience needed, just adequate proof that you have the nessesary experience. This is of course all in addition to the training/ assesments nessesary.

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