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I’m surprised this hasn’t come up yet.
I was driving yesterday and Eddie Mair was on LBC with some professor answering Q’s about COVID19.
A health worker called in asking if the NHS Trusts etc should be giving staff protective clothing etc as they take all their own uniforms etc home to wash.
How scary is that?
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/myth-busters
I can’t find the info but, I’d bet that to kill any infection on clothing the wash temp has to exceed 50˚C at a minimum and we pretty much know, hardly any machines on the wash cycles people use will get even close to that.
The most frightening part of it is, most people won’t have a clue and, even if they do, they will believe that the Cotton 60 is washing at 60˚C which, we know it isn’t. Que, a debate about lying etc.
That aside a couple of peeps have asked if they can get it prodding about in machines, dealing with customers etc and the answer is, yes I’m afraid so far as I can tell. I’m no virology expert but anyone with an ounce of common sense can see it is all too possible.
All that scum and bacteria in the machines we all see, guess what?! It’s a prime bacteriological breeding ground for this sort of thing so, if I were to bet though as I say I’m not an expert in it, those viruses could stay active for months in there.
Think happy thoughts and stay positive will probably be the message you get from the government.
K.
Strictly, a susteined wash temperature of at least 67 deg C is required to kill all germs. Luckily though, as this Coronavirus is not massively contagious and washing machine programmes take a lot longer than it takes to sing Happy Birthday twice, I think the risk of catching the virus from the drum is small. There’s more chance I think from catching it from the handles, surfaces and controls of the machine or indeed from the occasional customer who insists on shaking hands or hovering in my personal space.
I’ve been using alcohol hand cleanser after every visit for a few days now, avoided touching my face and wash my hand thoroughly before eating. Trying to get into good habits before the inevitable pandemic spreads.
It’s all a fiendish plot from the Chinese investors who bought a stake in Manchester City. Playing behind closed doors will give City a huge advantage as the are well used to playing in empty stadiums.:D
at the moment hand sanitizer is rarer than hens teeth and seeing that we are fighting a virus and not a bacteria anti bacterial wipes seem no use. the best I can come up with is a good supply of soap disinfectant and water in the back of the van.
wilf
With the news today and what I’ve seen online I think prayer may be more effective than sanitizer.
I was in two airports twice yesterday for the first time in a good while and a stark difference between them. One, you’d hardly know anything was going on, nothing at all unusual really.
The other, stations with advice, sanitizer stations, notices everywhere and peeps wandering about with gloves and masks on. Not like in your face overtly “Walking Dead” end of the world stuff but a stark difference and warnings about Swine Flu as well.
Guess which was the UK. Then ponder, what approach is right.
K.
The goverment’s chief scientific adviser’s reference to the importance of developing herd immunity I think betrayed the government are not trying to limit the spread of the disease, just to slow it down. Given herd immunity typically requires 90{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} immunity. I do wonder if the team of advisors they have assembled to make these decisions are suffering from a kind of herd mentality, with no actual concept of how the nhs is going to cope with even a flatter peak in intensive care cases over the next few months. I suspect a few brains in government may not be that bothered by a reduction in our elderly and/or relatively unwell populations, given their relative burden on the taxpayer.
Bit of a worry for those with elderly relatives.
We are definitely in a higher risk than most of catching the virus, meeting loads of strangers a day in their often all too dirty homes.
I’ve had flu once before and the hot /cold fever really wasn’t nice so not looking forward to catching that again.Unfortunately I’m confident that your not going to find any hand sanitisers in the shops.
Not really loads you can do, I’m just making sure I wash my hands after each job for longer and I’ve stopped accepting a cup of tea and gone back to my old flask.
Guess we’ll see in a few months how many of us are left!
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Given I’m now old enough to be “at risk” I’m not as nonchalant as I may have been in the past.
But in the end we all croak, it’s just a matter of when and why really.
Sanitisers are no use against this so far as I know so, a total waste of time and effort. Much like hoarding loo roll et all.
People are crazy. They do crazy s**t. Maybe that’s why they need so much bog roll or maybe it’s some sort of comforter. who knows.
K.
Now they are saying that they may soon insist that all over 70’s stay at home. How on earth are they going to police that. My walk into the town every morning and my two or three games of squash a week are vital for keeping me in decent health?
I wonder where we would stand when we have a call from someone over 70 if they are made to self isolate?. Lots of our customers are elderly and your right we are quite high risk.
Tough one to arrive at a definitive answer on.
On the one hand you’re right, there’s risk involved.
On the other hand, say it’s a cooker or a fridge, can the person live without it and if those go, it means going out or relying on deliveries of food.
Not easy.
K.
Got a mum who’s 98 and very visually impaired but independent. Big worry there but I also work around St Annes on Sea which has always been known as ‘Gods waiting room’. Stayed at home since Thursday as I developed what feels like a cold with no sneezing which is just plain weird but don’t know if that’s CV as when I phoned 111 they just told me to stay at home as I had a cough…….took no other details and no test??? Feel ok apart from chest cold aftermath symptoms but don’t know whether to go in tomorrow as I’m the only engineer.:(
My worry, as well as the health of my nearest and dearest, is the ability to keep on working and the ability to keep the business running without financial help from the government.
Whether that be due to a curfew, illness or if the parcel service grinds to a halt. Not being able to order in spares and the availability of spares with the wholesalers is another issue which I am sure will come in time. Will they be getting the same volume of parts into the country.
I am literally about to sign up for a new contract hire vehicle, (not the work van) and I am seriously worried now with the drastic turn of events what I should do.Worrying times.
So far, minimal impact in spares supplies but with Italy on lockdown and many, many parts flowing through there I expect it to become an issue in time.
It was mentioned three weeks or so ago here: https://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/appliance-industry-news/4410-coronavirus-to-cause-issues
Banning house visits etc for services or deliveries is a very real and potential problem for all.
Financial aid, don’t hold your breath as everyone and their dog will be after that as all actually get to grips with what this actually means for them. Then, it’s a lot of mouths to feed.
Apparently HMRC has been told to lay off small/medium business as a way of support but, it’s HMRC so…
And, that won’t really help sole traders in the short term that aren’t VAT registered I don’t suppose.
Quite honestly, I’d do nothing major till this sorts itself out and there’s some clarity on what the blazes is going on.
K.
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