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I’ve had a Creda w’machine thats boiling all the time, ordered up a thermistor for it & was sent out a thermistor kit :- part # 169430, this has only 2 connections & original one had 3, what way is it wired? or have i been sent the wrong part? Hotpoint don’t do technical support anymore i’ve heard!
Ta for any help in advance
Seamy
Re: Creda 17076 thermistor wiring
A thermistor with three leads 😕
There’s two versions of this machine, it sounds like you have the earlier one. Easy way to tell is if the module is a seperate part i.e. clipped to the back or side of the timer.
If it’s the early version it will have a thermostat as opposed to a thermistor which would have had three leads.
Check that 1st.
HTH
Dave.
Re: Creda 17076 thermistor wiring
As Dave said, the thermistor has only 2 black leads to it and not 3. No way does this production series of machine have a 3 lead Thermistor nor does it have a conventional thermostat. The part you were sent IS the correct part to cure the overheat problem, guaranteed!
If we are wrong do please tell us where the 3 wires go to on the Timer (terminal numbers that is?) as it cannot be a 17076!
Martin
Re: Creda 17076 thermistor wiring
Martin wrote:No way does this production series of machine have a 3 lead Thermistor nor does it have a conventional thermostat.
Martin, ignore the info on partfinder, the version with the seperate timer and module will have a thermostat, the module doesn’t have a comparitor circuit on those so it can only have a conventional thermostat, it just isn’t listed on partfinder.
I checked the paper manual for this model and versions with timer number 904-2385-0? has a 40/50C thermostat part number 168234
£80 for innacurate info, great eh ?
Dave.
Re: Creda 17076 thermistor wiring
Dave_Conway wrote:£80 for innacurate info, great eh ?
Indeed and it made my and a customer’s blood boil the other week, nicely saved by some help from Dave. 😉
K.
Re: Creda 17076 thermistor wiring
Dave_Conway wrote:I checked the paper manual for this model and versions with timer number 904-2385-0? has a 40/50C thermostat part number 168234
Actually I too checked in my paper manual (5401050 Issue 2) listing a 17076 with a ‘410’ series Timer Control Board. So I too would have fallen on my face on this one, even with the manual on the van.
If it then does have a conventional Thermostat fitted, it most likely will be OK and just a connection has broken to it then hopefully 😉
Dave wrote: £80 for innacurate info, great eh?
They haven’t ramped up the price of the CD Rom again have they 😕
Martin
Re: Creda 17076 thermistor wiring
Martin wrote: They haven’t ramped up the price of the CD Rom again have they
That was the price anyway wasn’t it ?
I pay a little more for the networked version so other people here can give customers wrong information 😉
Dave.
Re: Creda 17076 thermistor wiring
The model is 17076 & timer is AKO TYP 514 081, 904 2385 04, with module which pushes on to back of timer, cable from thermostat plugs on to bottom of timer via 5way rast type plug, 2 wires also go to pump! Is it possible to modify the wiring to take a thermistor & why is that info not supplied with part?
Re: Creda 17076 thermistor wiring
Seamy,
Do you really need a t/stat? As I mentioned earlier, they usually just have bad spade terminal connections that fail. Cut back broken wire and BINGO!
Hopefully 😉
Martin
Re: Creda 17076 thermistor wiring
No problems with connections, no loose wires at plug etc, as i said the machine boils all the time, so i ordered a ‘stat & was sent a thermistor instead, thermistor has 2 conections while ‘stat had 3, hotpoint told me when i rang them thats its the only one listed for the machine??
Re: Creda 17076 thermistor wiring
Seamy, they’ve sent the wrong part. This version does not have a thermistor, the info on the parts disk is incorrect as Martin and I found out, that is the info GDA have also I would assume.
It may be a faulty thermostat, very rare but possible. It’s just a normal mechanical device so easily checked after removal, it could also be the timer not advancing, does it continue and complete the programme if it’s clicked past the heat stage ?
Dave.
Re: Creda 17076 thermistor wiring
STOP ! Before you go ordering more parts check one thing – the Motor!
It is very common on Creda/ Hotpoint for the yellow Tacho cables to chaff on the end casing of the motor, causing an intermittent short. This crashes the microprocessor, so it sticks in position and it always seems to happen in the heating stage. – Easily rectified with a strategically placed piece of insulting tape !
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Seamy,
A very belated reply I know but I have actually found the 3 tag stat you want for this machine at last! 😆
Part No: 168234 (See Partfinder- Hotpoint WM22P b/4 date code 16) 😉
Martin
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