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June 8, 2009 at 2:33 pm #46286
forlornhope
ParticipantI inherited the above with a flat I bought in the last few weeks.
Can’t find a model number. It’s hefty and I haven’t pulled it out to look at the back yet.
I identified it on the internet, it was the first auto clean cooker produced in UK. They even made a film about it. It has an eye level grill. The oven looks industrial grade – I expect a crematorium might look like that – and there is an intriguing box with a hinged lid next to the controls which reveals the lever to set the oven to “clean” and a red button to activate it . Real “Goodbye, Mr. Bond stuff”. ๐
Anyhow the rings and grill work, so I may stick with it for a while. Haven’t dared try the oven yet.
But the problem is that one ring will not go off. The tell tale light goes out if you jiggle around the off point, but the ring stays hot, though not very hot. So I use this ring and switch off at the wall unit when not in use.
Is this likely to be an easy fix or replacement? There nothing special about that ring, no simmer button or anything. Hope someone can help, I’d like to keep this product of the Simplex/Creda company going!
June 8, 2009 at 6:01 pm #288799Penguin45
ParticipantRe: Creda Autoclean electric cooker circa 1967
Sounds more like an energy regulator fault than the element. Generic regulators are still available, although they will not be the same as the ones fitted.
Model number (which ain’t going to help us……… ๐ ) is possibly on a pop-up tag – have a feel across the back at the top.
Finally – PICCIES!!.
Penguin45.
June 8, 2009 at 6:23 pm #288800forlornhope
ParticipantRe: Creda Autoclean electric cooker circa 1967
Thanks very much for that quick response.
I looked around the top of the back for a pop-up tag – no such luck.
But I did find the previous owner’s saucepans in a glide out warming tray at the bottom. ๐
Not sure how to upload pics, but you can see the beast here:-
http://vads.ac.uk/diad/article.php?title=234&year=1968&article=d.234.35
The ring in question is 5.5″ across and works fine. Presumably there would just be two wires going to it so a simple generic regulator might do? There is only one tell-tale for all five knobs.
June 8, 2009 at 9:13 pm #288801Penguin45
ParticipantRe: Creda Autoclean electric cooker circa 1967
Fascinating link. What we need now is a really old engineer to cast his mind back……
The MIRA pics were quite alarming – I have just completed a 4 year restoration of a Wolseley 18/85 – seeing one going Splat! into the wall was a bit of a shock.
๐
Penguin45.
June 8, 2009 at 9:38 pm #288802iadom
ModeratorRe: Creda Autoclean electric cooker circa 1967
Penguin45 wrote:Fascinating link. What we need now is a really old engineer to cast his mind back……
Good grief, anyone that old will have doubtless passed over by now. ๐I didn’t start at Hotpoint until 1968 and the link up with Creda came long after I left.
Even at Hotpoint we never did our own cooker repairs for many years, at least not until the 80’s.
The old electricity boards did all or most cooker repairs in those days due to the fact that they ( allegedly ) gave a 7 day service. :rolls:
Jim, ( not that old ) ๐
June 11, 2009 at 9:29 pm #288803forlornhope
ParticipantRe: Creda Autoclean electric cooker circa 1967
OK, so I managed to pull the cooker out today and the details are Creda
40011, 13,350 Watts, Specification 400110000LG, Serial 169/2839.Looking at the Regulators, they are sort of black and rectangular! On the
sides of all of them (except the simmerstat one) is printed 21 ERI-68.They seem to have 4 or 5 spade terminals in use. The one at the top is
hooked up in parallel with the same terminal on the others so I suspect
that may be the live feed for the telltale light.The overall spindle length from the base of the threaded part is 24mm and
out of that the length of the revolving spindle itself is 15mm.I didn’t pull them out to test them, but as the wiring looks ok and the
rings are ok they must be suspect. Can anyone suggest a successor
part, or a pattern replacment? Many thanks.June 19, 2009 at 9:10 pm #288804Phidom
ParticipantRe: Creda Autoclean electric cooker circa 1967
A universal single circuit type should do the trick provided you connect it up right. You can order them via this site, using the shop@ facility, part No. ER1401 :
http://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/advanced … 1&x=31&y=8June 21, 2009 at 2:08 am #288805forlornhope
ParticipantRe: Creda Autoclean electric cooker circa 1967
Thank you very much for that info. I’ve already bought a couple of 41ER110B1 regulators and I see that happily that is the number on the side of the one you mention. The UKwhitegoods price is slightly less than I paid, however! I’ve pencilled in later today for fitting them
February 24, 2019 at 10:00 am #288806Hawleymob
ParticipantHi, I appreciate that this is a very old thread, but I came across it whilst researching the Creda Autoclean. I particularly enjoyed reading of the excitement of “forlornhope” in finding this cooker and wanting to keep it going – and his description of the special self-cleaning controls as being “Real Goodbye Mr Bond Stuff”. It brought back many memories, as my (now deceased) dad designed this cooker at the Blythe Bridge factory. We had a prototype at home, and I loved the self-cleaning function – it was like magic. It was also the subject of a very mysterious event, when a neighbour described ball lighting moving along the side of our house and disappearing just where the cooker isolator was positioned on the other side of the wall. We discovered that it had discharged through the cooker – melting much of the internal wiring. I spend many hours with my dad rewiring it – so I’m very familiar with the idea of keeping it going! Hope forlornhope succeeded in his quest – and got a few more years out of a innovatively designed cooker – which was also rather stylish (why did eye level grills go out of fashion – they were so practical!). Thanks again for posting about my dad’s cooker!
February 24, 2019 at 11:16 am #288807electrofix
ModeratorYou can still buy a cooker with an eye level grill but thereโs not much choice of styles thatโs days. For anyone suffering from back problems they worked well but todayโs trend to integrating appliances means you can now have the whole oven at eye level
Dave
February 24, 2019 at 12:10 pm #288808Hawleymob
ParticipantThat’s a very fair point, and Creda (and my dad..) did design integrated ovens/microwave combination ovens, which could be mounted at a convenient height. We had prototypes for some of these too…
February 24, 2019 at 3:10 pm #288809electrofix
Moderatorsounds like your family has been an extension of the test department lol
Dave
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