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I have this washer dryer at a client’s house, bearings failed, stiff as a board. It feels like as if the spider snapped as well failed bearings.
On the part lists, it showed 22mm and 26mm shaft for bearings/spider. Obviously without taking the machine out to see what size shaft, is there another way of finding out? Need to know cos of the spider.
Failing that, then it is a tub and drum assembly change
Serial number is 19701728
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twicknix wrote:Obviously without taking the machine out to see what size shaft, is there another way of finding out?
The only way is to remove the drum pulley and measure the shaft size.
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Drum support spider not available as a spare, its a sealed tub.
The support shown in the parts list is the bearing support which sits outside the drum at the back, never seen one of them fail.
Jim.
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iadom wrote:Drum support spider not available as a spare, its a sealed tub.
The support shown in the parts list is the bearing support which sits outside the drum at the back, never seen one of them fail.
Jim.
This kinda make sense. So looks like the only way to find out is to measure the shaft. Customer not too keen on me visiting more than twice as I have already been once, so she’s happy for me to get the full drum assembly, the question is, does it comes with the bearing support (the ‘X’ shape) on the rear or do I need to add it on?
Matt
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Not sure TBH, I’ve never found a customer daft enough to spend that sort of money on a heap of rubbish, Indesit machine in the first place. :rolls:
Jim.
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Metal drum comes with bearing spider on it, you might need a differant pulley also you will need a sub kit which includes blanking pieces and a new door seal
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The more I thought about this, the more I doubt if the job is worthwhile. I fear that I may have bitten off more than I can chew.
With regards to tub and drum assembly, with the issues of pulley threw the spanner into the works. Only if anyone knew what size the shaft on the rear, on connect website they only show one pulley for 20mm.
Iadom – you said you have not come across a bearing spider being broken? so the chances are in my case, it should be straightforward case, simply swap the bearing spider over and job done. Can this be down without taking the whole machine apart? How long would it take to do it? If I am to swap the bearing spider over, what other parts do I need to provide?
I will have to persuade the customer to allow me to make three visits.
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You said in your first post that you thought the spider had snapped. I took this to mean the drum support spider which is woefully thin and does often break.
I said that I had never seen a bearing support spider snap, totally different part. 😉
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iadom wrote:You said in your first post that you thought the spider had snapped. I took this to mean the drum support spider which is woefully thin and does often break.
I said that I had never seen a bearing support spider snap, totally different part. 😉
I have seen a bearing spider snapped, this was on a Hiaer machine – totally different story!
Well TBH, the drum has a lot of play and lots of clunking about, from my experience I found that worn bearings have a different feel to it. This drum was stiff as a board and when I forced it through, it felt that it falls to pieces and lots of rumbling and clatter. My gut feeling that it felt like the spider snapped, it was about 7 to 8 years old in hard water area which sounds about right to me.
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A broken drum spider will give you a front to back movement of the drum lip which varies according to which point on circumference of the lip you are applying pressure to (or squeezing). When the front bearing has shattered (which your description suggests) you can’t always tell whether the spider is or isn’t also broken. Sounds like a BER, TBH. Or send it to the fixed price guys. Don’t know if this is covered by Hotpoint?
Spider bolted to back of tub is probably best termed “bearing cross” to avoid confusion. But then we all have our cross to bear 😛 .
Mike.Re: Creda iwd12 – bearings failure
Thanks Mike,
The machine in question is in a rented property and there were confusion on who is paying for the repair. Spoke with the tenant and gave strong advice that a new machine is the best way forward.
Given the age of the machine and the confusion on part sizes, it was beginning to give me a headache, hence I recommended a new machine and priced it up for the tenant. To be fair the tenant was less than impressed but sometime clients fails to see that I am trying to do them a favour and save them from heartache in the near future. At the end of the day, they will pay what they are prepared to do but I will not repair it for this very reason, complexity of the parts.
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twicknix wrote: To be fair the tenant was less than impressed
Their failure to be impressed is probably due to the high rent they may be paying. And you, as piggy in the middle, may be their only route to gripe at the landlord.
Mike.Re: Creda iwd12 – bearings failure
twicknix wrote:Spoke with the tenant and gave strong advice that a new machine is the best way forward.
Judging by your report on the state of the machine it’s the ONLY way forward. I’m surprised the machine has lasted so long TBH….got to be a record, surely? 😛
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Martin wrote:
I’m surprised the machine has lasted so long TBH….got to be a record, surely? 😛
Ah, I geddit now. Creda IWD12 = Ariston AWD12 ?
Mike.
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