Creda TCR2 Condensing Drier Heater Probelms.

[Valvepower]

Hi All,

I need a bit of advice with a Creda TCR2 Condensing drier.

This unit caused RCCB to trip in the consumer unit, so armed with a Megger set to 500V, I ascertained there was leakage from negative and possibly positive to earth on the plug; it’s hard to confirm the positive without getting inside the unit because of the relay based door/ start button latching relay gadget cutting the positive supply.

I stripped the machine down and found the heating elements were damp causing the leakage to ground. I dried, cleaned and tidied up the elements and all was ok with the unit and the RCCB & Megger. I believe the damp was caused by the elements not or intermittently coming on – see below.

On further investigation I noted the elements were being supplied with voltage, but when the drum reversed and then resumed forward rotation again the heater supplier was NOT there. I did note a loud crack from within the controller when the supply to the heater should have been resumed on forward rotation.

I’m assuming the supply to the element is cut when the drum is stopped and in reverse but is resumed when in forward motion again?

Sadly, I don’t have a schematic for the is unit so I can’t see if there is something else in series with the elements to interrupt the supply when in normal use which could cause this problem. I’ve noted there are wires going to the condensing unit from the element-connecting block, which I can’t trace for the sake of taking the whole thing apart!

The question, I’m I right in assuming the controller is at fault? But before I order a new controller is this a common fault, or could it be something else?

As best I can see all the thermal switches appear to be ok.

Regards
Terry.

[Penguin45]

Re: Creda TCR2 Condensing Drier Heater Probelms.

If the elements were damp, the problem lies in the drainage side of the machine, no the electrical side. Water should never enter the fan chamber.

I’d start by pulling the pump at the rear right and digging out all the fluff and rodding out the chamber inlet with a long Tyrap.

Penguin45.

[helo_75]

for future reference, the heater isnt switched on during the reverse tumble… since the fan runs the opposte direction, it wouldnt be able to cool the elements, and would cause the cut out to cut out.. for this 6 second reverse, it really isnt important

and penguins right, the drainage cannel will be blocked

me thinks your delving a little too deep

[Valvepower]

Re: Creda TCR2 Condensing Drier Heater Probelms.

Hi Penguin45, helo_75,

Many thanks for your replies – nice one guys.

Yes helo_75, I was delving to deep, but on taking the drainage pump/float assembly apart, I did find the cut out switch in series with the elements I was looking for on the float cut out in pump chamber.

I’ve cleaned the inlet channel and pump chamber, but as well as doing this I decided to run the pump on the bench, and it appears not to be running smoothly, and running erratically. I’ve seen this sort of thing on synchronous motors in the past when the capacitor feeding the second coil is faulty.

So thanks to your help, it appears to the pump?

Terry.

[helo_75]

nope, the pump runs like that
simply, the water can’t get through the drain channel, and runs into the fan chamber

[Valvepower]

Re: Creda TCR2 Condensing Drier Heater Probelms.

Hi,

Strewth the way the pump was ratting around like a bag of monkeys, I’d have it down as rouge unit – well pumps aren’t made like they used to be!

There was plenty of grunge etc. In the channel and chamber, plus there was a tight bend at the top of the feed pipe from the pump where it enters the water collector at the top of the machine, which I took care of.

Thanks again.
Terry

[helo_75]

Re: Creda TCR2 Condensing Drier Heater Probelms.

Valvepower wrote: I’d have it down as rouge unit

Thanks again.
Terry

ive only seen them in black, sometimes grey 😆 😆 😆

[Valvepower]

Re: Creda TCR2 Condensing Drier Heater Probelms.

I’d have it down as rouge unit
ive only seen them in black, sometimes grey

Hi helo_75,

Do’h triping errot 😳

Mind you rouge would be nice for a pump, but it should be more like pink as it was making as much noise as a stuck pig on the bench!

English was not my strongest subject at school, as I spent too much time at the back of the class reading magazines on Guitars ‘n’ stuff from the top shelf 😯

Terry.

[helo_75]

further on to that

there are 2 different pumps for that model

the earlier, all black pump was a noisy pig, and was changed to a later type
it is possible to convert the early pump to the late type with the pump kit.. the later one is easily identified, by the stem of the pump being further from the body, coverered in a white plastic

[Valvepower]

Re: Creda TCR2 Condensing Drier Heater Probelms.

Hi,

Going by the description you gave, and racket this pig of pump makes, I kind ‘a feel it’s an old unit.

The machine is just over two years old, but it does get a good deal of use though.

Maybe it could be an idea to upgrade the pump anyway.

Can’t say I’m too impressed with the general build quality of this machine though.

Terry.

[helo_75]

thats cos theyre pants

zanussi dryuer are far superior, and dont give anything like the problems your indesit dryer does

[Penguin45]

Re: Creda TCR2 Condensing Drier Heater Probelms.

You’ve set him off now……..

Pump is p/no 1702988, BTW. spares@ukwhitegoods.co.uk will get one for you promptly.

Off to stand in the bath and sing ’til he comes down.

Penguin45.

[Valvepower]

Re: Creda TCR2 Condensing Drier Heater Probelms.

Hi,

Thanks for the heads up with a supplier of a pump that will be less noisy.

Can’t help but agree with the pants build quality of the Creda – let’s hope he comes down soon, as the bath water will get cold and you’ll run out of songs.

I’m in the middle of repairing a 56-year-old Bush DAC90A radio that has just a few parts failed. The Creda is not even in the same ballpark as the old Bush radio.

Terry.

[helo_75]

ok
the part number penguin supplied is just the original, replacement pump

i cant quite put my hands on the part number, BUT
http://www.4hotpoint.co.uk/cgi-bin/prod … query=pump

is what you actually need to convert it to the new style

if you look at the pic, youll be able to tell which pumps on yours

ill get you the number in the morning… DONT buy it from hotpoint

[bazza500]

Re: Creda TCR2 Condensing Drier Heater Probelms.

Hello, Helo.. 😀

The part no. Chris gave and the picture you link to are the same thing.

Chris`s part no. converts to C00260640 in the new Merloni numbers.

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