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Mentioned in my previous post, but worth its own thread I propose…
A detergentless washing machine has been developed and is on sale in France
Apparently it works by ionising water
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I’ll believe it when I see it as there’s been similar things in Japan and China for a while now. Basically to use them you have to pre-soak for hours, often overnight, to get any results and it still doesn’t remove or mask odours.
So far, there’s no such thing as a detergentless washer, you just don’t put it in the washer. 😉
K.
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The smell issue is a good point, who wants stinking clean clothes (sounds like my local laundrette).
I wonder if the ionization process takes a lot more energy as well than a conventional machine.
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Hollow wrote:I wonder if the ionization process takes a lot more energy as well than a conventional machine.
No data on it yet TBH although, with Haier badge on it, it’ll break down within 18 months. 😉
K.
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OMG what a load of s**t, pardon my French. That is the most rubbish thing i have ever heard, so much for saving the environment, yah right, clothes will need extra washing, and the machine will be wasting water and elecy for nothing. we use Ecover bio detergent and works just as well as the leading brand, without the overpowering ‘fake’ fragrance, and that being Haier as well, well lets say it won’t last a day for you to see if it works (hehehe)!!
And i’ve posted on the link, to tell what i think of it.
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And that, Mr Hornsby, is why the Mods are watching you………
Intellegent, reasoned discussion and debate is what we like to achieve in these forums. Hysterical rants just don’t cut it, I’m afraid.
Neither does Ecover.
Penguin45.
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Yes, not sure it warrented such an extreme reaction, and a lot of people are allergic to Bio Detergent 🙂
I guess we shouldn’t get you started on plans for self cleaning clothes with dirt eating bacteria… 🙂
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Hollow wrote:and a lot of people are allergic to Bio Detergent 🙂
Not as many as you think are truly allergic to Bio’s, 😉 used with the correct dosage and wash cycle the enzymes are rinsed away at the end of the wash, leaving the only perfume on the clothes.
Jim.
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We in the appliance repair trade care little about the method of washing be it with conventional detergent, tree huggers gloop, silver ion particles or negative ionised water slooshing machines. They all will fail sooner rather than later. We welcome any new gadget that enters our market and have the tools ready to sort them – bring it on! 8)
It’s worth noting than this so called ‘new washing technology’ is in fact nothing of the sort. It’s be around for ages and well researched in laboritories across the world. It’s just that few manufacturers are daft enough to set up a production line and mass produce them. Only the Chinese have so far stepped forward and made that production line advance. :rolls:
I hope it works and that there’s loads of them out there for me to fix in the coming months and years. Chinese takeaways are on every street corner these days, and I love Chinese food. I’m sure I will learn to love their washing machines even more as I’ve spent a small fortune over the years on egg fried rice, prawn foo yung and chicken curry. Now its pay-back time….. 🙂 😈
Hah! So!
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Penguin45 wrote:And that, Mr Hornsby, is why the Mods are watching you………
Intellegent, reasoned discussion and debate is what we like to achieve in these forums. Hysterical rants just don’t cut it, I’m afraid.
Neither does Ecover.
Penguin45.
Sorry about that everyone, but when i get on my soapbox, i get on my soapbox. Maybes i should go in politics.
But i disagree with anyone who knocks Ecover, it works brilliantly and leaves a natural mild fragrance rather than an overpowering stench, and its the only sort of powder and tablets that dissolve thoroughly in the cycle. Say what you want, but i think we should all be using it.Re: Degergentless Washing Machine
adamhornsby wrote:
But i disagree with anyone who knocks Ecover, it works brilliantly and leaves a natural mild fragrance rather than an overpowering stenchWell it definitely leaves a certain fragrance in this area, usually an awful smelly drain sort of whiff, combined with manky, discoloured door seals. Also noticeable that if you ask the customer for a few towels in case of leaks, they always have that grey, unwashed look about them, even when they are supposed to be clean. :rolls:
I do get plenty of calls to Ecover users with badly corroded drum supports, keeps me in work so if the mugs think they are saving the planet, who am I to disavow them. 😉
Jim.
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Hollow wrote:Yes, not sure it warrented such an extreme reaction, and a lot of people are allergic to Bio Detergent 🙂
Absolute rubbish and certainly not grounded in fact. Sorry.
Most all of the problems are caused by cheap, low quality, poor performing machines and incorrect use of detergents and machines by users.
K.
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Detergent manufacturers were quick to recognise that many young and elderly people suffer from skin allergies, dry itchy skin, eczema and psoriasis and produce a product to suit their condition. Such as this : –
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And, that is merely re-packaged non-bio which is not sold in any other country. The difference between the products is adequately explained in many articles in that section of the site and in the forums, many times.
So either we have different skin to the rest of the world or we’ve been misinformed eh?
I will say again, in 99.99{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of cases the problem is not the detergent, you have more chance of winning the lottery two or three weeks in a row than have a skin problem created by a detergent.
However, if you do not use both that and the washing machine correctly then yes, you are very liable to have issues.
K.
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