Diplomat 600Ga Door seal advice please

[smarterchick]

Hi, I have a Diplomat 600Ga cooker Model number 050502078.

Can anyone tell me if the door seal is meant to go all the way around in a full circle or is it meant to have the gap of some 4-5 inches across the top?

On mine, there is a chrome plate running across the top blanking off the final 4-5 inches of the seal run.

i.e. on other cookers I’ve seen, the rubber seal goes all the way around to completely seal the heat in the over. With this cooker it does not complete the circuit as the chrome plate prohibits the insertion of the seal into the groove where the seal sits.

I have a problem with the door not closing properly which seems to have occurred since I last changed the seal and as this was provided with an MFI kitchen by the previous owners of the house and the draw and cupboard doors are coated with a plastic film, the plastic has melted on the doors and draws immediately beside the cooker door and ruined them. I’m guessing this may be the hinges, but they appear to be functioning correctly.

At first I thought the heat escape was being caused by the supply of the wrong seal, but I’ve checked this and I am using the correct seals.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks

[don]

Re: Diplomat 600Ga Door seal advice please

Hi

Can you post up the model number please as 600GA is a generic number for quite a few different ovens.

I believe from the 050 number you have posted you may have an ADP0150 oven. Label around the door area should reveal the all important detail.

We can then look at the drawing and advise further.

Don

[smarterchick]

Re: Diplomat 600Ga Door seal advice please

An ADP 0150 indeed Don and thank you very much for replying.

Gives the serial number too 50109573

Model number as above: 050502078

Much appreciate the help
Andrew

[don]

Re: Diplomat 600Ga Door seal advice please

Hi

Yes you are correct 🙂

It’s a Stoves made oven an there is supposed to be that gap along the top.The new seal just tucks into the frame and you cut to size as it usually comes as a roll.

Don

[smarterchick]

Re: Diplomat 600Ga Door seal advice please

Thanks for that Don, I have changed the seal now and the problem remains with the closing of this oven door. I thought it may have been the seal. When I purchased the replacement after we bought the house, a couple of years back I bought a clone seal -a cheaper version of the rather pricey originals.

Soon after, I noticed the adjacent doors and draw coating which sit beside the oven door and is a plastic of some sort, melting and distorting from the heat escaping from the gap as the door was not sitting true or upright as it should.

Thinking I’d suffered from a duff purchase I ordered the costlier original seal but found it was identical to the cheaper one I’d bought so I just kept the original as a spare. That’s the one I’ve just fitted now.

The hinges, to be honest, seem to be working okay tension wise, they don’t appear to be broken, but could these hinges suffer some kind of internal failure which might cause the door not to close properly would you think?

There’s a push-button on the frame of the oven which appears to be some kind of electrical trip which would be depressed as the door closes, but that does not get compressed now yet doesn’t seem to make any difference to the operation of the oven, that worries me.

Any thoughts at all on why this door might be failing to close? I need to sort this as I can’t afford a new cooker quite yet, heat is escaping and I’ve already ruined one large cupboard door to the right of the oven and 2 draws to the left.

Any help much appreciated.

[electrofix]

Re: Diplomat 600Ga Door seal advice please

is the door latch operating and adjusted ok

a lot of catches use a roller catch and a pin. the rollers can fail over time and the pin can wear
also the pin can be adjusted in a lot of cases by screwing it in and out to adjust the door gap

Dave

[don]

Re: Diplomat 600Ga Door seal advice please

Hi

The switch is probably the grill override switch. The door needs to be open for grilling if you close the door the switch will cut the grill out.

The hinges are probably worn due to the age and use of the oven which is why heat is escaping. An engineer would be required to confirm this is the case.

Don

[smarterchick]

Re: Diplomat 600Ga Door seal advice please

Thanks Dave and Don,

Don, I’d rather not call an engineer quite yet as call-out charges can outweigh the necessity sometimes if I can fix it myself. (I’ve rebuilt a car so am handy enough on mechanical issues (don’t worry, won’t touch the gas!).

Dave, not quite sure what you mean by door ‘latch’ – the hinge is sprung, and the door opens downwards (long handle along the top which pulls towards you and hinged along the bottom) but there is no ‘latch’ as such. No knobs or latches to secure the door, all done through the hinges, but I was wondering about the adjustments and whether there was for this model or not as that would appear to be a sensible solution if the spring or hinge had an adjustment facility. There are philips screws located in the area of the hinge, but they look more like a securing screw for the main facia plate and looking on-line at the hinges for this model they don’t appear from the pictures to show any kind of adjustment availability.

I might need to dig a bit deeper into the hinge area to be certain, but if someone on here knows the model and can tell me from their experience, that would be helpful. New hinges are around £30+ by the looks of things and that would be far cheaper than any call-out charge if I can fit them myself without going anywhere near the gas fittings or having to move the cooker in any way of course. – I don’t ‘do’ gas! (or Water!)

Cheers thus far, we’re getting there.

Andrew

[electrofix]

Re: Diplomat 600Ga Door seal advice please

ok did not know it was that kind of hinge ( no info)

sounds like hinge wear to me

just checked the hinges. had lots of these fail like that. irts an easy swop but the oven has to be pulled out to get at 2 screws either side

should be this hinge

https://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/0829708 … door-hinge

Dave

[smarterchick]

Re: Diplomat 600Ga Door seal advice please

“but the oven has to be pulled out to get at 2 screws either side “

Okay, thanks Dave, but pulling the oven out? – Does that mean disconnecting gas pipes because if it does I’m outta here!! LOL

If that is the case then I’d need to get the engineer which adds a significant cost to this job of course.

I’ve just read the link you provided to the part above which describes the various methods of replacing the hinges, most helpful and maybe I am going to have to get the engineer as I value my fingers too much. I take it that the ‘receiver’ is a separate part too and doesn’t come with this hinge? Do UK Whitegoods supply those too?

Many thanks for your guidance, it has been most helpful. All this for a bit of a naff old out of date oven…maybe I’ll have to dig deep for a new one after all…damn.

Thanks
Andrew

[electrofix]

Re: Diplomat 600Ga Door seal advice please

oven will be on a flexible pipe and it only need to come out about 12 inches just enough to undo the screws. if you pull it out and support it securely at the front you will be fine

there is actually 3 screws to undo to change them.
2 screws on the door directly up from the hinge about 8 inches. 2 very short screws. open door. undo screws. lift door up till almost closed and outer door will lift off

pull oven out enough the get at the 4 screws ( 2 left 2 right) undo screws. withdraw old hinge. put new hinge in and replace screws.
replace door and your home

Dave

[smarterchick]

Re: Diplomat 600Ga Door seal advice please

Thanks Dave, I’ll give it a go then and come back and tell you how it went.

Cheers

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