Dishwasher Engineers?

[mjk8]

Hi,
Im intrigued as to why you guys who fix kitchen appliances refer to yourselves as “ENGINEERS”. This actually degrades real engineers such as myself who are degree qualified and are Chartered members of an institute i.e The Instutute of Electrical Engineers/IEE/IET. I feel that real “Engineers” are a few thousand miles in front of people that merely repair kitchen appliances.

Mike. (Rant Over)

[farmboy]

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Funny how you “real” engineers never seem to mind when you need advice & assistance from us “engineers” when your machines goes wrong.

Are you for real or just a troll?

[Martin]

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mjk8 wrote:This actually degrades real engineers such as myself who are degree qualified and are Chartered members of an institute

Can you fix all makes of dishwashers Mike? or would that be too degrading for you to try and make an honest living from doing such a thing?

[mjk8]

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The question is not whether I can fix all types of appliances.
FACT – Yes more than likely with appropriate cct diagrams and information that you readily have access to.

The question is also not that you don’t make an honest living from such work. The fact is yes you can and do.

The question is why you call yourselves “ENGINEERS” when technically and educationally you are not.

Often the fix for an appliance repair man/woman is to change the control board etc. Real engineers found in industry would be quite capable of repairing such a control board. Thats the difference !

So maybe scrap the ENGINEER part and replace with “Repair man/woman”.

Mike

[Martin]

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mjk8 wrote:So maybe scrap the ENGINEER part and replace with “Repair man/woman”.

OK Mike….you are after all better quailfied to say and thank you so very much for your input on the subject. 😀

Yours most sincerely

Martin

(the Repairman)

[gegsy]

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mjk8 wrote:So maybe scrap the ENGINEER part and replace with “Repair man/woman”.Mike

I think “Technician” is a more suitable name than repairman/woman to be honest.
Im more perturbed about the manner in which you have gone about setting the record straight. I personally find your comments rude to be honest and just so you know some of us here are university graduates and do hold numerous respected qualifications.

Regards

Greg

[mjk8]

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Martin,

If you had put many years of hard work and effort into qualifying as an engineer then you would share my opinion, which is one of most engineers.

To put it into perspective – many years of university study followed by > five years of proven experience working in industry as a trainee engineer.

I think I have earnt the title of ENGINEER, then the guy who comes to fix the photocopier/washer etc also calls himself an engineer ??? How does that work?

Its a F***ing insult my friend !!

Mike

[superfix]

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No you’re the f***ing insult mate.

I hold many qualifications and I’m sure many of the other guys on here do too.

I have been to many appliances that so called PROPER ENGINEERS have tried to repair themselves, and have made a complete and utter balls up of it all.

I hope your dishwasher, fridge, freezer, washer, microwave and washer all go wrong. Then when the REPAIR MAN turrns up he takes a p**s in them all.

BTW can you say that you enjoy your job and get job satisfaction, because I know I can.

RANT OVER

[whitevanman]

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mjk8 wrote:Hi,
Im intrigued as to why you guys who fix kitchen appliances refer to yourselves as “ENGINEERS”. This actually degrades real engineers such as myself who are degree qualified and are Chartered members of an institute i.e The Instutute of Electrical Engineers/IEE/IET. I feel that real “Engineers” are a few thousand miles in front of people that merely repair kitchen appliances.

Mike. (Rant Over)

I suppose you are refering to going to study and get 2381, 2391, part P, 16th edition BS7671 IEE , etc, yes I can agree that you may need these to work in domestic or commercial properties but the sugestion that us white goods engineers are a few thousand miles apart really bugs me, yes electricians three wires comming into property with typical earth arrangments TN-C-S, TN-S, TT, ELI, Main Earth Bonding , supplementry bonding, not forgeting you have to calculate the resistance of a circuit, fuse requirements etc etc etc refering to the onsite guide when required,

Us Whitegoods ENGINEERS dont have such guide to refer to we are engineers in our own right, We dont always have a book to refer to when we do We have to refer to Cam chart, wirring diagrams not just three/or 4 in switiching intermidiate as electricians but with wirring harnesses containing 40+ wires on older machines MK72 servis/ hoover selectronic / zanussi not to mention mechanical arrangments designs of just the british wirring regs but european machines where neutral is used as switch including relays etc, this whitegoods industry is increasing with a number of Nvq, C&G qualifications , like you like me I’v come across instalations where a bonafidi electricians qualified have left properties in a dangerous state, one instance would be where a Manweb instalation was wired wrong polarity , do this using a gas tumble dryer and there is a risk of explosion. Once went to repair a creda oven where this guy works as a design technical bod (HND), he told me it was the grill element was faulty, I knew that the problem was the regulator did’nt have one on me but still had to strip the appliance down to prove that this was the fault, perhaps he learnt something 😆

Summary.
Never underestimate the knowledge of a whitegoods engineer we are professional with our skills, expertise and knowledge of this industry.

I hope this clarifies the situation and puts your concern, opinions at rest.

Regards

Wayne

[Turbo]

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I qualified as a City & Guilds Craft Apprentice which took four years to complete. I now carry out Domestic Appliance Repairs as a living.
What does amaze me is just how bad some of these qualified engineers are as I often get called out to their machines in bits.
I treat them all the same telling them you started the job you finish the job (not in those exact words but close).
The word engineer covers a massive area and I am sure some engineers out there would be insulted that OUR FRIEND calls himself an engineer.
I think we should ban OUR FRIEND from this site so we can focus on more important issues.

PS When OUR FRIEND goes to the Doctors does he take the wee wee out of him for being a failed surgeon?
Turbo

[mjk8]

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Boro,

Now you are getting pretty insulting.

Point missed again !! The point was that you should not refer to yourselves as engineers.

You don’t need to prove how qualified you are to me, or how many washing machines you’ve fixed. And resorting to saying “I hope all your appliances fail” is a bit pathetic isn’t it ! The fact is that if they did fail I’d repair them myself – as always !

You would say that you’ve repaired machines that real engineers could not fix. I like the way you refer to “REAL ENGINEERS” though!

Well done with your summing up of the “REPAIR MAN” with the comment about urinating in appliances. Enough said !

And for the record I do enjoy my job a great deal, and working with “REAL ENGINEERS” in the nuclear industry is a great pleasure.

Mike

[Turbo]

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Where is GOATBOY when you need him.

[gegsy]

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Ok guys, enough, this is in a public forum. I think enough has been said on this subject, although I have no idea why someone register for this site and then rant on, it beggers belief 😕

Im going to lock this topic.
Thanks for your inputs

Greg

[kwatt]

mjk is obviously trolling, as well as being way off base with his ludicrous statements. Seems to think he’s better than everyone else and you can catch the concluding episode in this debacle HERE

K.

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