Drum noise on spin –

[helo_75]

DONT, under any circumstances, at all, in any way, waste your hard earned coin on a ariston/indesit/hotpoint pile of trash

as youve probably read, bosch figure highly in the advice we give on replacement machines… well worth the money

ise machines give good value for money, with lengthy guarantees,a machine that doesnt compromise on quality for the sake of profit… the independants speak highly of them, and you would deal with your local trader direct.. that maybe better for you?

im sure one of the agents (kwatt, iadom, penguin45) will advise a little better, as its not anything i deal with!

would i put a drum shaft/bearings on an old hoover? im not sure, theyre better than a lot of this tat knocking about right now, .. personally, id be looking at the brushes while i was in there!!

good luck, whichever way you decide to go with it

[midi]

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Okay guys,
:waving:
Last posts on the wobbly spin :bounce: . I took your advice and contacted a couple of Independents. The first I’ve used before – ex Hoover training technician – been happy with him in the past. I told him the symptoms and he said he couldn’t do an economical repair – no quote given. He doesn’t sell washing machines, just services them. Second guy operates within ¾ mile of my house – and sells washing machines – working on the suggestion that someone may be splitting one so keeping the cost down. Impressed with the guy, turned up early morning so I could get off to work in time and didn’t charge for the visit. He pronounced it dead – the spider has gone , as if I needed to tell you. However, as he sells machines he gave me a recommendation BOSCH WAZ24364GB. His throw-away comment – which I didn’t pick up on at the time was ‘ The cheapest German made Bosch we stock ‘ I didn’t prompt the Bosch brand. On reflection ‘ German made Bosch’ from that I assume that Bosch also has machines made elsewhere ( as does everyone) and maybe they have quality issues – comments please. Oh, forgot to say £400 with 2 years warranty.

Hell0-75 looked at your suggestion re the Comet Bosh , was out of stock when I first looked, but seems to be back now.

With regard to the WAZ2436GB – can’t seem to find a consistent specification between web-sites , and the Bosch UK doesn’t seem to list it – any comments please?.

I am also looking at the ISE machines – the local stockist is about 6 miles away, I’m going to drop by and see what he has to say. The better half thinks the Bosch is expensive enough (£500 with 5 years warranty) don’t here that very often :rolls: so she’ll get a shock with the ISE (her thoughts are if spending loads of cash get a Meile).

So hopefully you be able to give me some excellent steers, you’ve been most helpful and saved me a lot of time and effort. :salute: So this will most probably be my last post on the wobbly spin machine. Take care all, and I speak to you on the domestic Iron forum – going through a trauma with a Morphy Richards Steam Generator – 2 replacement and awaiting a repair of the last replacement – all in less than 2 years :bang: – get the impression when speaking to them they have a design fault and they’ve stopped the replacement policy and now repair only. Since it’s about to come to the end of its 2 year warranty maybe looking for another brand in the next 6 months.

Regards

George

[cockney steve]

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OK,- Bosch , like a lot of manufacturers, are a global producer- just as Ford Cortinas produced in Belgium, were crappy compared with those from the Cologne plant, – so it is generally accepted that the German -built Bosch products are better -built than the stuff from Italy, Poland ETC.-more-so than price or model-differences would suggest……..in other words, If you buy Bosch, the extra cost of the German models id a LOT better value.

The ISE is sold only by independent engineers.

They have a vested interest in having happy customers (they recommend friends, remain loyal and so ensure the trader does not go out of business.)

The machines are built to their own specification and concentrate on quality rather than flashing lights and gimmicks….the range is limited and it appears that each tries to offer the best in performance and reliability,at that price.

The ISE10 is expensive…BUT It’s an industrial machine to all intents and purposes…..in other words, it will take a hammering like a launderette machine.- for a young family it must be the best investment,-the warranty and service / maintenance knock spots off the only other make anywhere near (Miele)

Not sure what the current lineup is, but there are plenty of links here.

The “closed shop” operation of Miele for parts, service and total lack of any service-info(and you HAVE to pay them to “reset” the “brain” ) whenever it needs, means I’ll never own one….plus their parts are scandalously expensive.

hope this helps….I’m not a whitegoods engineer,.but have a strong background in sales, service and engineering.

[Phidom]

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If you are wanting a good quality machine you could also consider the German made AEG models.

[Penguin45]

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What German made models? They shut the factory…….

Last report HERE.

Chris.

[kwatt]

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Correct.

So far as I am aware there has not been any German made AEG products for at least a year or more.

Hence it is now “German Design”. Quite what that means as the innards are pretty much the same as any other Electrolux Group product I’ve no clue. John Lewis do it as well with their appliances.

I don’t know if they even still have any design houses in Germany, I’d doubt it TBH as why do that when you already have one paid for elsewhere?

Loads of people still think they’re German though. :rolls:

K.

[Phidom]

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Oooops, sorry 😳 🙁

[casey09]

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Hi George

I just bought a Bosch washing machine two weeks ago, model number WAE24364GB – which could be the one you were recommended – note the E, instead of the Z. It is listed on Bosch’s website.

The good things – I’m really pleased with how clean it can get things, and with less powder too. It is fairly quiet during the wash and rinse phases of the wash cycle. It even looks nice, for a washing machine, it has a curved front that makes it seem less obtrusive than my previous box shaped machine. It has rubbery feet to help stabilise it, and so far it seems to be very solid on spin. The controls are clear and easy to use.

However I do have 2 issues with it (which may not be issues for you).

The first issue is rinsing. If you don’t already know that modern machines are not good at rinsing, then check out this article:
http://www.whitegoodshelp.co.uk/wordpre … -properly/
One of the reasons I chose this Bosch is that it has an aqua plus button, meaning more rinsing. However even with this button pressed, it still doesn’t rinse as well as my old washing machine. My old Zanussi used to do 5 rinses, and the new Bosch does 2 as standard, and 3 if you press the aqua plus button. Before I bought the machine, I didn’t know how MANY rinses it would do, I just hoped that having aqua plus would mean it would do enough! I didn’t really think about whether it was the number of rinses that was important, or the amount of water used per rinse. Now I think the number of rinses is important, since I’ve noticed that the Bosch’s delicates cycle does take in quite a lot of water per rinse, but the end result still isn’t that great. I’m still in the process of getting used to the machine, and one thing I’ve already noticed is that I can get away with using approx 1/3 of the powder I used to use; since it washes so well, it can still get the washing clean with this small amount. This of course helps with the rinsing as well. This Bosch also has a 15 minute quickwash that can be used as an extra rinse cycle (3 rinses) – it even suggests this in the user manual.

I just noticed that the ISE machine can do 5 rinses… so if you’re trying to choose between the Bosch and the ISE, it looks like the ISE may be better on the rinsing front.

My final comments on rinsing – it is possible that your old Hoover will be better at rinsing than even the ISE – you’d have to ask the ISE people exactly how good at rinsing their machine is – and if that is the case, you may want to repair your Hoover, instead of getting a new machine.

The second issue with the Bosch is the noise that it makes on spin, which is a high pitched whistling or squealing noise, and personally I really don’t like it. You can hear an approximation of the noise in this video (this is not my video, or my machine, but it makes more or less the same noise). And yes, I was surprised too that people make videos of their washing machines!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AA7MmtFLYQ
I don’t know if this is unique to Bosch, or whether all modern machines sound like this. I have read that it is due to the motors having brushes, instead of working through induction.

Anyway I hope this extra information is helpful to you, if you haven’t already chosen your new machine! If you choose one of the ISE machines, it would be interesting to know what they sound like, and how well they rinse.

Casey

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