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can any one tell me whats the rule /law on repairing dual type cookers ie gas /electric
do I need to have a safe gas certificate .if I am replacing electric element/timer .Re: Dual cookers
should be interesting to get some clarification on this. I have always followed the rule that if i dont disconnect a gas pipe then thats ok. the only exception being the gas hose if fitted with a bayonet which is designed to be disconnected by the housholder
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Some light reading…try some more searches there is alot of discussion about this!
http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/modules.p … s&start=60
basically if you work on these appliance and anything ANYTHING goes wrong…its your bum in the sling!!
New regulations say that the bayonet fitting is purley for the customers/ gas technician use to disconnect if there is a problem….Anyone else disconneting that pipe to carry out any service work on that appliance must be Gas Safe Registered!Jazz!
yep me to , elements,maybe tangiential cooling fans,fan motors, and stats only if i can get access via a side panel.if it means going anywhere near the gas,walk away.i do remove the bayonet,sometimes,but i will always try to repair with it in situ
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I had a Gassafe inspection a couple of months ago and brought this question up with the inspector and he told me that anyone can repair the electrical side of an appliance be it a hob, cooker or combi boiler as long as they do not dismantle gas carrying pipe or fittings, as Jazzmiester said above you cannot disconnect the gas hose if you are working on an appliance and are not Gassafe registered but you can ask the customer to disconnect and reconnect after you have repaired it.
John
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John is totally correct.
So long as you don’t break a gas connection that requires re-soldering, sealing or connection APART from a bayonet connection then, LEGALLY you’re okay.
However…
If you do work on a duel fuel appliance and the house goes “BOOM” with the cooker identified as the source of the problem then you will be looked at. The reason being that it will be assumed that you did something wrong, especially if this happens a short time after the appliance was repaired.
I had a bit of a conversation on this topic with the HSE and, trust me, they will assume that you’ve screwed up and expect you to prove you didn’t. As you’re not Gas Safe or whatever registered and not officially qualified you will be asked to prove something you can’t as, LEGALLY since you’re not registered to do gas work you can’t LEGALLY test for gas soundness and therefore you can’t categorically prove that you left the appliance in a safe condition.
If the customer does anything to the machine themselves though, it’s just fine and dandy!!
Yes, I know it’s contradictions. But, that’s government for you.
I’ve never, ever heard of a case of it happening or even a problem in this respect but you’re better to know what you’re getting into than not.
K.
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The annoying thing is that you can’t just take an exam and get qualified like for driving a car, there are hefty ongoing costs involved with staying registered. 🙁
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tell me about it 👿 I think that most of the guys on here who are gas safe registered like me do it because they have to, if I had a choice I would drop it in a heartbeat.
John
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So…..if the house gets burgled the day after I visit……Do I have to prove I shut the door properly m’lud or is it just that I have to prove the householder shut the door behind me……therefor it is not down to me?
M’lud
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I’ve just renewed my public liability insurance. In the exclusion list is “any gas appliance”. Might be worth checking your policy to see if you are covered.
Firestarter at your service!
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kwatt wrote:John is totally correct.
So long as you don’t break a gas connection that requires re-soldering, sealing or connection APART from a bayonet connection then, LEGALLY you’re okay.
Rules have changed on this in the last 6 months.
Only the householder, competent person or gas safe engineer are now allowed to disconnect a bayonet fitting, there is also a list of electrical components that non gas safe/competent persons cannot work on…… but I dont have the list to hand at the moment 😳 I know fans were on the list but dont think that meant stir fans, more cooling fans that also provide air for combustion.
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