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January 30, 2008 at 12:43 pm #34190
kladave
ParticipantAs a wta member,i would like to ask what is the stance taken over working (electric side) on dual fuel cookers when not corgi registered.
dave
January 30, 2008 at 1:47 pm #241578Martin
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kladave wrote:As a wta member,i would like to ask what is the stance taken over working (electric side) on dual fuel cookers when not corgi registered.
Have a good read of this link Dave and make your own mind up. 😉
http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/modules.p … ic&t=29558
Also it is important to note that unless you declare to your Public Liability insurers the fact that you intend working on dual fuel appliances whilst not being Corgi registered, they will adjust their records and, likely as not, their premiums? 🙁
If they have a clause exemption within your policy then you’d best watch out and steer well clear of gas!
January 30, 2008 at 6:20 pm #241579VillageIdiot2
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A post I put up in another forum Jan 2007:
“We have just recently joined the Corgi register and during a ‘pre registration’ interview with our local Corgi Inspector, I asked the question…………..
(I’m not using the technical jargon here now, nor quoting the Inspector, just posting my interpretation of his answer)……..
Q – Can a non Gas qualified Engineer carry out repairs on duel fuel cooking appliances?
A – Yes. Only if you have to break into the gas system to change a component do you have to be deemed competent and be qualified accordingly whilst being on the Corgi register.
I send my Engineers to carry out elec work on gas cooking appliances and told the Inspector that also, (he did not object) however, they are all aware of the actions to be taken if they or the customer discover a gas escape. ”
If you’d like, I will contact Corgi again and question their Technical desk and post the responce.
Adrian 🙂
January 30, 2008 at 7:27 pm #241580kladave
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washdoctor wrote:A post I put up in another forum Jan 2007:
“We have just recently joined the Corgi register and during a ‘pre registration’ interview with our local Corgi Inspector, I asked the question…………..
(I’m not using the technical jargon here now, nor quoting the Inspector, just posting my interpretation of his answer)……..
Q – Can a non Gas qualified Engineer carry out repairs on duel fuel cooking appliances?
A – Yes. Only if you have to break into the gas system to change a component do you have to be deemed competent and be qualified accordingly whilst being on the Corgi register.
I send my Engineers to carry out elec work on gas cooking appliances and told the Inspector that also, (he did not object) however, they are all aware of the actions to be taken if they or the customer discover a gas escape. ”
If you’d like, I will contact Corgi again and question their Technical desk and post the responce.
Adrian 🙂
Yes please adrianthanks dave
January 30, 2008 at 7:44 pm #241581VillageIdiot2
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No probs Dave, I’ll post my responce tomorrow
Adrian 🙂
January 30, 2008 at 8:19 pm #241582aqualectric
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Adrian, could you ask afterwards that they could put the answer to the ultimate white goods question in writing? Corgi seemed to have avoided doing this before.
What do you think? Worth a try?Steve.
January 30, 2008 at 8:23 pm #241583Lawrence
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Depends if Ade can blood out of a stone 😆
LawrenceJanuary 30, 2008 at 8:41 pm #241584VillageIdiot2
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Lawrence wrote:Depends if Ade can blood out of a stone 😆
LawrenceTime for the bear prodding stick to come out! 😆
January 30, 2008 at 9:06 pm #241585Lawrence
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washdoctor wrote:
Lawrence wrote:
Depends if Ade can blood out of a stone 😆
LawrenceTime for the bear prodding stick to come out! 😆
😆 😆
January 31, 2008 at 8:43 pm #241586VillageIdiot2
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2 attempts to get through to Corgi Tech desk today…. hung up both times after holding for about 10 mins each time….. will try again tomorrow.
Adrian 🙂
January 31, 2008 at 9:35 pm #241587kwatt
KeymasterHelpful spods aren’t they? 😉
K.
February 1, 2008 at 2:09 pm #241588VillageIdiot2
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Just spoke to Ray on the corgi technical helpdesk. He says yes, non registered engineers can work on the electrical side of a duel fuel providing the gas system does not need to be broken into. I have asked for that in writing and I have been asked to put my request in an email and email it to him. He says he will then put it into writing for me to publish to the WTA members.
Adrian 🙂
February 1, 2008 at 2:19 pm #241589kwatt
KeymasterCool, you got someone sensible. 😉
K.
February 1, 2008 at 2:29 pm #241590kladave
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Adrian,many thanks
dave
February 1, 2008 at 2:54 pm #241591Martin
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Cool?…….really? :rolls:
washdoctor wrote:Just spoke to Ray on the corgi technical helpdesk. He says yes, non registered engineers can work on the electrical side of a duel fuel providing the gas system does not need to be broken into.
Adrian, my point has always been the question as to how one legally defines that term “providing the gas system does not have to be broken into”??????
I don’t need to remind you of the purpose of why the HSE co-ops Corgi to police gas related repairs in the UK, or their remit. Nor can one question the qualifications of those many Corgi approved fitters who undertake the stringent rules one has to apply when dealing with combustable products. But the issue here is to realise the dangers of simply allowing a carte blanch go-ahead to those that are not suitably qualified in dealing with the dangers of gas. By saying that it’s OK to fix ’em as long as ya don’t touch the gas supply. 👿
If the WTA is to take any route in that direction I would suggest you get more than just the say so of Corgi’s Tech Desk. I would further suggest also that the best line would not to promote any work by non Corgi registered engineers at all on any gas appliance, dual fuel or otherwise, especially those that sign up to the WTA!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah and I know that many WP’s give shed loads of gas work and their agents have been doing them for years – fact! But it is wrong, very wrong and needs clearly defining in order to continue. Meanwhile the WTA should advocate caution to all its members at the very least…..and I don’t need to phone Corgi’s Tech Desk to apply that logic.
Many electrical based engineers that fix whitegoods have little or no qualification. Many on the payroll of firms around the country barely know how to use a Loop Tester or have ever seen one. Non of them carry manometers or can spot ventilation problems in a kitchen. Haven’t even a clue what a blue, green or orange flame represents or can spot the dangers of a corroded burner or faulty FSD. But that’s OK ‘cos they don’t touch that anyway?………..
….mind they don’t trip up on their spurs on the way out!!!!! :rolls:
Gas = Corgi approved fitters and engineers…period, for the WTA to say otherwise is not a good move IMHO
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