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When running programs on this machine found on the LHS of the dial (incl the 50C prog) a problem occurs when the machine moves in to the rinse phase. The machine fills with cold water, and just as the agitation phase starts so does the pump, and the water level falls. Then, realising the water level has fallen the machine stops agitating but continues filling. As you might guess, this process continues indefinitely. The programmer switch is just shy of the first dot on the program fascia indicating the first of 2 rinse cycles. If I move the timer switch forward by a smidge, the agitation cycle starts, but the pump does not and all is well.
By contrast, using the programs on the RHS of the dial presents no problems at all. Can anybody advise on where to look for the fault. Thanks … Paul
Re: Electra 17052
It may not be faulty. This machine like many others uses ‘step cooling’ on the synthetics side of the programmes. It is almost 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} Hotpoint with a dash of Creda. On the synthetics programme the first rinse is the step cooling rinse, the machine pumps & fills alternately to slowly reduce the temperature of the clothes which prevents thermal shock. This happens when hot, pliable synthetics are hit with ice cold water, thermal shock causes creases to get set into the clothes. The step cooling is a means of preventing this. After between 5 & 10 minutes the machine should automatically proceed to the next rinse and continue normally to the end.
Jim.
Re: Electra 17052
mitchep wrote: this process continues indefinitely.
Jim. This is classic syphoning syndrome.
It’s likely that the drain hose discharges into a sink or standpipe that is too low. The end of the drain hose must be above the level of water in the machine otherwise the water will syphon. It will only happen on the synthetic cycle at this one spot due to the step cooling.
There is a red line printed on the back of the machine as an indication of the minimum drain pipe height.
Bob
Re: Electra 17052
Thanks to all for your replies. Re siphoning, I suspected this first of all, and physically removed the hose from the down spout. As the rinse cycle moved to the agitation phase I got a free shower as the machine pumped the water all over me.
On the option involving cooling down, this sounds more promising. However, I initially realised there was a problem when the machine remained stuck in the same position for more than 1 hour. I have read that a thermistor can fail, and convince the programmer that the water is too hot. This then leads to the machine contantly pumping & filling in the vain hope that the water temperature will cool down. Have I understood this correctly?
Re: Electra 17052
No, there is a strong possibility that your machine does not have a thermistor but standard thermostats. This machine has an old type mechanical timer with a separate speed control module. If it does stick at the one point for over an hour and you have put the pipe over the sink then you have a fault in the control timer itself. It is rare but I have seen it on two or three occasions in the past 30 years or so. Cost of new timer would not be justified on a machine of this age, just nudge it past or use the other programmes.
If the stats failed it would just boil away.
Jim.
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